Cubase 4 has power panning, and its available in the project setup menu, under stereo pan law.

This is just my opinion, but i think its beneficial to use a plug in for panning, like waves Imager.

If you set the send to post fader, than panning in cubase will actualy occour after the sends, meaning that your send signal will not be panned, only the direct signal.

if you, however...use a plug in in the 1-6th insert slots, the signal getting fed into the send reverb WILL be panned, creating a clearer sound and a more defined spacial position, at least to my ears.

When its set to post fader, the send level controls the amount of signal getting sendt to the reverb, and the channel fader controls the dry\direct signal. So setting the right levels for thesee are integral for getting the right amount of wetness, and greatly varies depending on the instrument, and the placement in the virtual room. You just have mess around untill it sounds right.

well, i forgot to mention that one needs to choose the pan mode on the actual channel strip itself.

And if you set stereo pan law to "equal power" you will retain the db levels in the stereo field, wich is better for positioning instrumnts if you use the VST panner.

And..well, as a default, panning IS post send in C4, and im assuming it has not been changed, if it can be as you say.

And it is very simple to look at the basic c4 signal flow diagrams, to see that this is the case.

If the panning can be set to post sends, then that would eliminate the need for a plug in indeed, altho...i happen to like the waves plugin anyway, as it has other practical benefits as well.

yes yes i get it, im an idiot, your the knowledgable one, thanx.

Just trying to be helpfull, not bludgeon people to death with information on whats"correct" or not....lol.

@Pzy-clone said:

yes yes i get it, im an idiot, your the knowledgable one, thanx.

Just trying to be helpfull, not bludgeon people to death with information on whats"correct" or not....lol.

@DG said:

Now you are being an idiot. All I was doing is correcting some mistakes in your post.

@DG said:

Now you are being an idiot. All I was doing is correcting some mistakes in your post.

Yeah - but you can't do that Daryl. Be aware that if you persist - there will be a sudden appearance of........................................................................... GRAMMIES!!!!!! (cue DUH DUH duhduhduhduh music)

Wall that's easy to counter, with BAFTAs.

DG

@DG said:

the reason that VSL makes a deal out of this is for people who either want to pan on their farm machines or who use Logic, and therefore don't have the same panning options that are available in Cubase.

@DG said:

the reason that VSL makes a deal out of this is for people who either want to pan on their farm machines or who use Logic, and therefore don't have the same panning options that are available in Cubase.

VE power panning is looking nicer thou .... 😊

best

These are two separate issues:

1. DG doesn't like Logic. Correct.
2. Direction Mixer is the same as power panning. Not correct. According to Julian (who is a die hard Logic user) Direction Mixer helps you to narrow the stereo width, but makes panning almost non-existent. If you do a search you'll find his complete explanation.

[:P] 

Well, you are correct, i was speaking from a SX3 mindframe, and as a rather fresh C4 user  i didnt yet see the possibility to alter the panning of the sends indendently from the main channelstrip .

But IF you use the C4 panner, Pan law is not irrelevant at all...in fact its quite cruical to getting the right sound and mix.

And if your setting is say, -6db...and you are unnaware of its setting, you might never realize that as you move things across the stereo image with the cubase panner, your levels are going up or down depending on wheter its center or to the sides, and can completely destroy your fragile mix and levelsetup.

But now, i have to go polish my grammys, if you will pardon me.

Then im taking them out for a walk, and maybe a fancy dinner if the mood strikes me, then..you know...maybe some luuuuhve,.

Hello, "....and the channel fader controls the dry\direct signal " .I idn't get it , where is the channel fader ? How can I make this ??Can you explain it with picture ???

Many thanks !!!  

@DG said:

Direction Mixer is the same as power panning. Not correct. According to Julian (who is a die hard Logic user) Direction Mixer helps you to narrow the stereo width, but makes panning almost non-existent. If you do a search you'll find his complete explanation.

 

DG