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    @orchestralalala said:

    Wonderful!

    Is it still giong to be free ?!

    Apparently not, but I would guess that unless you have FX-Teleport, it is bound to be a good deal.

    DG
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    It's better than free. It'll save me buying two RME MADI interfaces and MoL CP. Thanks VSL!
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    I wonder how many audio channels you can get running accross ethernet? I wonder would it be possible to route all instruments back individually and be able to mix them all in the DAW?
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    @Simsy said:

    I wonder how many audio channels you can get running accross ethernet? I wonder would it be possible to route all instruments back individually and be able to mix them all in the DAW?
     

    Wonder the same thing! I also wonder how much latency there will be related to the number of simultaniously streamed channels and how much strain that will force on CPU of both slave and host computer. 
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    I haven't re-read the blurb, but doesn't it say 16 stereo outputs per VE instance? I don't know exactly when you'd hit the limit of gigabit ethernet, but you could presumably get at least 16 stereo outputs without issue.

    J.
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    Gigabit ethernet can stream a LOT more than 16 stereochannels fyi. We have had a SAN setup at my studio that were easilly running 60+ stereo channels of 24bit 48khz audio, and it was all running using a single gigabit ethernet connection. Throughput up to 400 MB/s should be the "roof" approximately.[H]
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    Regarding the number of outputs for VE3 per machine:

    Here are some tips to some more specs that were divulged somewhat quietly by VSL on another thread from early January:

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/17788.aspx

    Dietz wrote on January 9th:

    Regarding your question: No, we won't use a "classical" audio-connection between MIR-host and VI-slaves, although it is clear that you will need audio-outputs on the MIR in almost all imaginable setups. The system we have now is a proprietary driver-stucture for FireWire-connections, theoretically enabling us to bring in up to 64 stereo-channels into the MIR-machine from up to 64 slave-machines. - But for some guys within the VSL this is not enough, so maybe we will see yet another solution for the final product.

    cm wrote on January 14th:

    some things to consider:
    ethernet has been invented for reliably receiving data, firewire for realtime streaming, ethernet needs configured identity of hosts (IPs), firewire is autoconfiguring (deviceIDs), ethernet puts a tic more load on the processor than firewire, ethernet packages can collide (get dropped and resent), firewire works basically *timesliced*
    128 tracks 44.1/24 need 16 MB/s which is below the limit of both connection types and it depends on the circumstances beyond which load dropouts will occur.
    last but not least: ethernet support or resolving connection problems can be tricky, firewire works or not.

    on the other hand: if the issues with firewire continue as they came up lately maybe we should drop it ....
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    Some day I'll figure out how to create paragraphs in the new VSL forum software. My apologies.
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    @Jack Weaver said:

    Some day I'll figure out how to create paragraphs in the new VSL forum software. My apologies.
     

    Use Firefox as browser.... (I guess you are on mac using safari?)

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    also some day we will get this editor working with sofari too ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    Jack, I'm sure we're all grateful for your reporting. I know I am.

    I use Safari too. Type SHIFT comma (to get the "less than" sign), then type "br" (without the quotes), and then SHIFT period (to get the "greater than" sign). Do all of that twice to get a double space. "br" stands for "break." You can verify that you've got it right using the Preview tab.

    Christian, do you know when VSL will post this information officially and in greater detail?
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    Isn't it lovely? Everyone's waiting for the christmas parcels :)

    Me too :)

    I don't regret to have purchased my first VI SE-Downloadpack even more now VE3 is announced!

    Angel 
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    Marvellous news!  I can't beleive that they finally are going to bring something out - especially after all my banging on about audio over lan solutions falling short of the mark (especially for us Mac users)

    Can't wait![<:o)]

    Thanks guys.  Now where's the official info!!!!

    Tim
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    Yes it sounds great. A tigers leap forward both in DAW-slave interaction, with the VE and VI. I would prefer ethernet connection, setting it up isn't that hard - I managed[H]

    Re 1 gigabyte ethernet; I worked with one for a year or so. Yes it works seamlessly, however I did have to maintain latency between DAW PC and FX-T slave PC mostly because Spectrasonics Trilogy demanded it; even when freezing tracks (Cubase 4) it kept cutting up the sound. -until I enlarged latency. Which was a surprise at 1GB connection. But it works.

    best regards, Jorgen

    www.lauritsen.org
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    cm -

    Since it seems that you're back online following NAMM, will I need a PC slave with my Mac DAW in order to use VE?

    I may need to buy a computer this week and this would be extremely good to know.

    Thanks


    (I want to thank Plowman for his help on teaching me how to create paragraphs with Safari!)
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    Whilst I can't comment for cm (& co) - why not get another mac, if at all possible.  Then if you're using Leopard you can use the Share Screen feature to control them both?  That's what I'm planning on doing - assuming this VE3 isn't an April Fools' (bit early for April)....
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    Hi timkiel,

    I certainly will get a Mac for my slave machine if possible. I just haven't gotten confirmation from the powers-that-be at VSL that a Mac will work for this.

    Mainly at the moment, I might need to replace my multi-use PC this week because my old one is on its last legs. I use it mostly for stereo editing in WaveLab and hang my customer's drive off it

    . And I thought that maybe if a Mac wouldn't work for the slave that I'd buy some high end PC that could be both the slave and my multi-use machine. Otherwise this week I'll buy a low end PC to handle the editing.

    Best regards
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    not neccessarily you would need a mac, but you can use a mac ... my recommendation would be to not use a PPC mac (hint, hint) ...

    depending on what you're intending to burden on this machine you wouldn't even need a too expensive one ... two cores, maybe 4 would already do more than *the job*

    if you like to run only VE on it and don't have money to waste get a PC, if the compter has to stand near your desk (and you like it silent) get a macPro.

    what you will need anyway: a flawlessly working gigabit connection

     

    as posted earlier: get a system you are already familiar with or be aware of a learning curve.

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    christian, as most of us were not at NAMM, can you elaborate on the timescale for VE, as that might make a difference to people's plans.

    DG
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    Oh and one more thing. One of the flaws in FXT is that the network periodically checks something (I've no idea what), which can cause the odd pop or click. Does the same thing happen with VE?

    DG