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    Hello, 550 GB but it seems to be compressed as if it was 16 bit if I've well read ...
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    Might be...

    I think the 550gb are uncompressed. But could be cool if not [[:)]]

    At any rate the new content really has to deliver

    I cant wait to see what orchestral stings 2 is [[:)]]
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    Wasn't the Cube suppose to ship on a hard drive?
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    yeah... a few years ago [:D]

    TBH it might still be the case. But it seems like it will be DVD's
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    Yes, you are right. In the past we've planned the SC as single product on harddisc - no modules, collections etc.

    In the meantime we've learned that a lot of our customers prefer individual selections. Therefor we've splitted the SC into ten collections, which can be ordered individual, and therefore a harddisc solution didn't make sense any more.

    best
    Herb
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    It seems that in this meantime VSL is also learning some new things about what their customers prefer about this SC and what doesn't seem to make sense anymore to their loyal clientele.

    Clark
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    How long to decompress and load to hard disc and organise 550 GB from DVD??


    Julian
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    @herb said:


    In the meantime we've learned that a lot of our customers prefer individual selections. Therefor we've splitted the SC into ten collections, which can be ordered individual, and therefore a harddisc solution didn't make sense any more.
    best
    Herb


    And that is what 'sensible' users have always asked for - well done .

    Fancy a game of golf now Herb?

    [:D]
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    @paynterr said:

    Just logged in after the countdown and am frankly quite disappointed with what is being put on offer.


    Personally, I will be irritated if the strings are the same as before - although 24 bit may or may not make a difference to the mixed sound. Dunno. Being unable to download any of the videos at this time - I understand from a colleague that the Repetition now looks really good and intuitive.
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    Wow paul your really missing out. The videos are fantastic!
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    @Christian Marcussen said:

    Wow paul your really missing out. The videos are fantastic!


    Quicktime 6 Christian - everytime I try and download they stick at about 30% - could be because there's alot of downloading going on, or because somethings wrong at this end. Shouldn't think it's that though.
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    Paul, are you downloading them or streaming them?

    Have you tried right clicking on the links and selecting 'Save Target As.'

    I had trouble streaming them, but downloading them allowed me to watch them.
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    @Christian Marcussen said:

    Wow paul your really missing out. The videos are fantastic!


    Quicktime 6 Christian - everytime I try and download they stick at about 30% - could be because there's alot of downloading going on, or because somethings wrong at this end. Shouldn't think it's that though.
    I'm guessing your on Mac then? If not try the WMV files. You just HAVE to see these vids!
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    I've had no problem streaming on my office Mac Mini.I'm on QT 7:maybe that's your problem there, Paul. Gotta say: I'm very, very excited (in principle) by this new interface and its potential for networking. Looks like they've taken on board what people are asking for (with a little influence of the better features of Kontakt 2).The rep interface makes the whole process appear very facile and quick.

    Maybe it's my imagination, but the interface demos seem to have taken the VSL instruments to a new level of realism. Some people have been griping about not enough new sounds: there seems to be an awful lot of new stuff to me (I'm particularly excited by the introduction of mordents); but then, I'll be going straight from the First Edition to the new Pro.

    This new interface looks like the dog's wedding tackle to me.Sorry,Paul,haha!
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    the only big improvement in content of the old stuff is the reprograming of the perf rep patches but its not with 4-11 grand. I'd pay a modest fee to have those newly edited samples of my old content for giga studio. I don't really need the new interface. Though it's purported sample loading efficency sounds promising.

    I am not sure if the new content will include stuff like improved legato violins or something like that but I'd be inerested to hear what they sound like.
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    Wow - Baghdad Cafe is a seriously weird film.

    Anyway, can't go to Quicktime 7 right now - need to be at least OS 10.9 - I daren't update from 10.8 to that at this time. So it could be that for sure, although never any problems in the past. No worries on the vids at this time though. Can't right click either Joseph - Mac mouse hahaa! Tried the 'download' also. It's not a problem - I will get to see them soon no doubt.
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    Dear PaulR,

    I believe it's Control-Click for right clicking on a Mac. Should open up new worlds for you.

    Jack
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    @Jack Weaver said:

    Dear PaulR,

    I believe it's Control-Click for right clicking on a Mac. Should open up new worlds for you.

    Jack


    Dear Jack,

    Yeah - tried all that before - doesn't work/thanks.
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    I think it does introduce new and important features that aim exactly for the weaknesses in sampling (as repetitions).. my concerns are mostly about usability in a large orchestral context..
    Will I need 10-15 DAWs to run that thing properly? Will it be complicated, like "ah, ok wich articulations did I assign to the mod wheel for the flutes again.." and long ot use, so that the results are too slow to respond to the demands? How stable and well working is the new sample engine?
    I most certainly would want to try the software before I'd consider buying it, but if I understood this right, we have to pay the full price first (not an upgrade price) and we then only get the upgrade price on the extention..
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    Well, I for one think that the VI concept seems to be absolutely fantastic and an excellent achievement. It seems very straightforward to use, flexible and efficient in terms of RAM usage etc.

    I also think it's great to offer it split up in sections, since a lot of people obviously wanted to be able to buy "only the Woodwinds" and so on. Good call indeed.

    I only have a couple of concerns really:

    My first one (which apparently many share with me) is how the upgrades from older versions of VSL will work out. I'm however confident that VSL will not go back on their promises (such as the VIP guarantee) and make sure that old customers are taken care of in the best manner possible.

    My second concern is related to the fact that the VI samples won't be editable by users. IMO, this makes it even more important that VSL adresses some of the few problems remaining in an otherwise excellent product that only grew even better with the VI's.

    I'm talking about stuff like inconsistencies between samples (for example jumps in timbre within the same instrument/articulation that sound unnatural) and the phasing occuring when crossfading in some instruments.

    If these problems were fixed, then an already brilliant product would IMO come as close to perfection as it's almost humanly possible when it comes to sample libraries.

    I'm pretty confident MIR will also be very interesting. If it turns out only half as good as the VI's seem to be, then it will also be excellent.

    R