new demos september 03

[herb]

I'm happy to announce a couple of new demos:


"American Almanacs Main Theme" by Evan Evans

http://vsl.co.at/demo_user?DP_ObergruppeID=5&DP_GruppeID=29

Evan Evans on "American Almanacs Main Theme":
It uses 100% solely the VSL First Edition samples. No performance instruments, performance tools, or performance samples were used. Just old-fashioned sample playback and sequencing strictly from the VSL First Edition for EXS24mkII. It was done entirely within Logic 6.1.0 under OSX version 10.2.6 Jaguar on an Apple G4 Dual 1.42Ghz. I had two Altiverbs setup 100% wet/direct each:
Altiverb 1 - "Amsterdamn Concertbauw Close Cardoids" - Woodwinds, Strings, Brass.
Altiverb 2 - "Amsterdam Concertgebouw Far Omnis" - Percussion.
It is unmastered and uncompressed. Only a slight treble boost all around was applied.



"The VSL Fantasy" by Kuno Schmid

http://vsl.co.at/demo_user?DP_ObergruppeID=5&DP_GruppeID=30

Kuno Schmid on "The VSL Fantasy":
This was my first work with VSL. I instantly felt familiar with the sounds and handling. This composition is a little hommage to the great american filmcomposers of Hollywood´s good old days, like Max Steiner, Hugo Friedhofer, Alex North, Miklos Rosza, David Raksin, etc.
I did not use any midi-volume, nor did I simulate "fake" diminuendos by decreasing volume faders during mix. All diminuendos, crescendos etc. are "truly" "played" this way.


"Small Town Massacre"
"King Edwards Overture" by Jonathon Vandergriff

http://vsl.co.at/demo_user?DP_ObergruppeID=5&DP_GruppeID=31

Jonathon Vandergriff on "Small Town Massacre":
Small Town Massacre, is for a film that is currently in development. I used the VSL First Edition.


Thanks a lot for these wonderful compositions.


and at last a new Classic demo

"Eine kleine Nachtmusik" by W.A.Mozart

http://vsl.co.at/demo_classic?DP_ObergruppeID=6&DP_GruppeID=32


best wishes
Herb

[SyQuEsT]

Congratulation all !!!

Herb, WOW ... I like the VSL version of "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" ... special congratulation to you [:D] Can we have a tutorial for this musical work ? Maybe just violin I ?

Thank you,

Mathieu Laprise
Sonomax inc.

[herb]

Here is the download link for the midifiles.
I prepared for each instrument an individual midifile.
At the moment I didn't find time to prepare the performance tool setups,
which are corresponding to the midifiles.
Generally most of the stuff should work with the Pro Edition midi templates of each instrument.
I also included a short description about the programming workflow of this piece.

best wishes
Herb

http://www.vsl.co.at/upload/forum/nachtmusik_midi-files.zip

[duoartc]

[:D]
Stunning Herb. Could you elaborate more on the articulations used.

I would love to hear how this piece would sound using just the Pro Edition strings without the Performance set repetitions just to see how the alternating tool copes. Any chance?

Craig

[Craig Sharmat]

Herb,

Beautiful!

All of the other pieces are really nice, Mr Schmid's piece is an outstanding composition.

[theiss1979]

Whhaahhoooooo - do I really have the same samples as Kuno and Herb have ???? [[:|]] [[[;)]]]
Outstanding !!!!!
These demos show, what you can do with this Lib when you know how to work with it......
I'm impressed - and even more motivated. [[[;)]]]
Greetings,
Seb

[PolarBear]

These are again some really nice demos!

Is it only me that hears it, or does Kuno Schmid's demo really have some sound quality issues, that I'm not used to when listening to VSL demos? I guess there might be an issue with the used MP3 encoder?

best wishes,
PolarBear

[KMuzzey]

These demos just knocked my socks off, and inspired me all over again.

Evan, thank you for throwing in the detail about your reverbs... I just got the altiverb a couple weeks ago and I'm going to try out your setup, because i LOVE the sound that you achieved.

VSL, you guys continue to blow me away. WOW.

[herb]

>I would love to hear how this piece would sound using just the Pro Edition strings without the Performance set repetitions just to see how the alternating tool copes. Any chance? <


The most important patches I used are Alternation instruments.
stac_1+2,
0'3s_1+2,
0'5s_1+2
using a simple 1:2 setup in the alternation tool.

There are of course also performance repetitions. Sometime the repetitions work better, sometime I prefer simple alternations. Generally it's better to use repeitions if you have more than 4 repetitions.

For the bassi I used only alternations, six doublebasses is a very large section for this intimate piece. The single notes do have less randomness, therefore the bassi do have smaller impression.
And this works better in combination with the cellos (where I used repetitions)

Most of desicions are very subjective, I also took the chance to experiment with different options during programming this piece.

To be honest, I don't like to go back and make alternative versions - the programming was hard enough for me, because I played this piece during my active cello career to often.

At the moment I'm working on Saint Saens cello concerto.
I really like it, because it's the first time, that "my" intonation is OK, and I can perform the difficult passages in the right tempo. [[;)]]

best wishes
Herb

[evan evans]

@Kerry Muzzey said:

Evan, thank you for throwing in the detail about your reverbs... I just got the altiverb a couple weeks ago and I'm going to try out your setup, because i LOVE the sound that you achieved.

You bet. Thanks for the compliment. I think most of those other demos are from the GigaStudio Setup, but I can't be sure. But certainly the sound quality of mine is way off from theirs. I probably should have uploaded a mastered version, but that AltiVerb REALLY colors the sound. So much so that it doesn't sound too mastered when it is done. So a word to the wise, listen to the sound of the mix PRE-Altiverb, then apply an EQ post-Altiverb to compensate and get your spectrum back to where it was, if not better.

i pray each night that when Emagic's New Reverb comes out that it sounds sonically much better than Altiverb, because AltiVerb's sound is just sooo colored.

Evan

[Dietz]

Evan,

it's not a question of the engine. It's a question of the IRs used. Convolution, if done properly, doesn't have a "sound of its own".

I know that I'm asking the obvious now - but did you try Ernest Cholakis' IR-Sets (i.e. from Numerical Sound)?

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

[evan evans]

@Dietz said:

I know that I'm asking the obvious now - but did you try Ernest Cholakis' IR-Sets (i.e. from Numerical Sound)? /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

I haven't tried 3rd party IRs or invested in any because I thought that every set used their own Impulses. Isn't that true? Wouldn't one's set be incompatible with some engines? Help me to understand this. I wouldn't have to convolve them again would I?

Thanks,
Evan Evans

[Dietz]

Actually, IRs are just "samples", which could be used with any convolver. As a matter of fact, they are often supplied as simple *.wav-files. The convolvers are what you would call a Sample Player for "conventional" instrument samples.

That said, it's of course necessary to "adapt" the IRs for the use with certain engines like AltiVerb, but the tools to achieve this are supplied with the program itself, AFAIK.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

[DamonB]

Hats off to you Herb! Fantastic demo of Mozart [:)]