Hello

Thanks a lot. So the format for the 2 sampler engines are the same one with and the other without the edit capabilities as I unterstand.

About where to post, maybe should I try to ask at NI website ? I will give it a try. Yes there is only the Sib5 demo available wich comes without the Kontakt player !
So testing it possibilities are = 0.

If you can find more I would really appreciate and if I get some infos from NI I will give this infos here [:)]

Best regards

I just spoke to Sibelius UK tech support. According to them the Kontakt Player 2 bundled with Sibelius 5 will only read libraries which are specifically formatted for Kontakt Player 2, so it won't read the VSL Horizon Series Concert Guitar Kontakt library.

However, Kontakt 2 (the full version of the sampler) will happily run inside Sibelius 5 so if you buy it you can access the library that way. It's arguably a good investment because nowadays many companies release their sounds in Kontakt 2 format. Hopefully VSL will one day release Concert Guitar (and its hairy companion, the excellent 'Overdrive' rock guitar) as Vienna Instruments?

Many thanks to you

Now it look's more clear to me ! Yes I think I will make the choice of the full Kontakt 2. I will certainly also buy Logic Express (I was first thinking at Logic Pro but I really do not need so a big, Pro & costly software). So if I need more precise edition I can export my Sib 5 files as midi and import them in Logic Express where I can also use the full Kontakt 2 with VSL Concert Guitar. I plan also to add the VSL Special Edition (Standart for the begining). This make's me having one more question and after that I think I will no more disturb you with my questions (-;

The last question : will a 3 Gb RAM Intel iMac be enough when using Logic Express + Kontakt 2 + (say) many instruments ? (The same thing will certainly happen with Sib 5 + Kontakt 2 + many instruments)

Their is also this option : a new Intel MacBookPro - 4 Gb RAM, but more costly...

In all the cases I have to say I'm happy with all your advices.

Best regards

please note the VSL performance tool for EXS 24 mkII can only be inserted into logic pro - logic express does not have the respective interface (connector).
working with logic pro i would recommend to use the exs version of the concert guitar instead of inserting kontakt - having two (or even more) streaming engines running simultaneously on a single machine has turned up to be sometimes problematic.
christian

Hi Christian

Thanks for the note wich is important . So I can imagine that the same thing will happen if I use this VSL librairie with 2 engines : VSL HS Concert Guitar in Kontakt and finally Kontakt in Logic Express. I am correct ?

So it means I have to use it in Logic Pro, correct ?

Jean Jacques

sorry, maybe not clear enough ... running logic/exs plus kontakt plus vienna instruments _could_ cause problems (depends also much on the rest of your system).

although i wouldn't see a reason to insert kontakt into logic (which comes with its own streaming engine, the exs) unless you have a library which is only available in kontakt and another one which is only available for exs, i think many users have such a setup running fine.

clearly each streaming engine *intends* to get the priority on your system to work at its best conditions - so using two or even more of them simultaneously _might_ cause an overall sub-optimal behavior ... that's all.
christian

So the best way for me would be :
- Sibelius > export as midi file
- import the midi file in Logic Pro

and then using the Concert Guitar from VSL direct in Logic Pro via EXS & VSL Standart Edition as an Audio Unit in Logic Pro. I think I'm correct now (-;

I hope an iMac with 3 Gb Ram will be enough to do this. Thanks for your help

Jean Jacques

Jean Jacques, that sounds logical!

As an extension to JJ's query, can I ask here on behalf of all who are interested if VSL intend to release Vienna Concert Guitar and Overdrive as Vienna Instruments? They are fine libraries and if available as VI's they could be inserted directly in Sibelius 5, Logic Express (etc.) without having to worry about accomodating the old Performance Tool application. This would greatly simplify matters technically as well as adding another very useful musical dimension to the VI collection.

(If you do re-format 'Overdrive' can I request that the Extended version includes a black t-shirt with 'VSL Rocks' written in blood-dripping letters?)

Thanks Christian, I unterstand and will see ones I have more experience with all this things.

Jean Jacques

Yes Conquer …

i'm interested if the Concert Guitar will become a VI usable in Sib 5 & Logic Express too ! All my questions I have posted here because of :
- Apple has moved to Intel processors & the apps to UB…
- My old & slow eMac should be replaced with a new Intel mac
- Sib 4 is not UB & has audio issues on Intel macs
- Sib 5 is UB and will sheep soon
- as a classical guitar player & teacher I need a good sound librarie
- VSL HS Concert Guitar is such (the only one) a librarie but not VST - AU or VI
- I'm not an editor, professionel sound designer or producer etc
- I'm a musician loving real beautiful instrtuments sounds !
- I compose also & would like in my pedagogic activity to make good cds
for my students…
- Do I really need Logic Pro wich is so costly !
- if I add all what I need to buy, it comes to a really big amount !!!

So yes why not to reformat the VSL HS Concart Guitar & making it available to more people & of course the same for the Overdrive for people intersted in it ?

Cheers
Jean Jacques

Here here! Trying to get a groundswell going here. Would any Vienna Concert Guitar and Overdrive fans care to add their names to our two-man campaign?