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  • solo violin sustains

    I remember DG whining about violin legato, and having to make a break between legato playing vs. sustain.

    There is no such problem, if you simply use a keyswitch on the desired longer-than-legato-target-note to one of the "resources" violin patches, pp to f, or the multivelocity sustain violin.

    So what is your problem again, DG?  I forgot what exactly you were whining about.  [8o|]

    (This new emoticon I will have to make a note of as it is obviously my normal mode...)


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    @William said:

     

    (This new emoticon I will have to make a note of as it is obviously my normal mode...)

     

    Is that the real reason for this thread? If so, carry on, good sir.
     


  • Actually, William I was whining about something very different. I was complaining that in order to force a start note I had to leave a gap that was far too big. I could use a fA sustain instead, but the timbre is very different. Why do I want to force a start note? Well, it's a little thing called bowing. Look it up...  [;)]

     DG


  • Hey, these new emoticons are fun.

     NOT........

     DG


  • Actually, now that I think about it, I was whining about ensemble violins.

     DG


  • Force a start note?  What did I just write?  Since you were kind enough to explain what bowing is to me, I will be kind enough to explain that what I wrote was exactly how you force a start note without a gap. Though it seemed to sail right past you sir. Having a bit of trouble with the old eyes today? Or is it the brain?

     O.k., I was just joking sarcastically but the point was serious, as this makes a huge difference in solo lines and allows exactly the effect of instantaneous bow changes in a legato line.


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    I always have trouble with both my eyes and my brain. That's what makes me so creative....!

    I agree that your solution works well in solo lines, but it doesn't work so well with the ensemble violins, as the sustain notes are often of a different timbre and on the wrong string.

    DG


  • Oh, I see.  Not to be contrary [B]   (And no I don't know what that icon means in this context but couldn't find one I thought would be more touchingly appropriate so just went with it as beer is always welcome) but that is an interesting reaction you have. Given the fact that the resources use the same sustains, just in single layers.


  • I think I might have a solution. I got this from a big collection of VSL tips'n'tricks...

     So, to force a start note after a sustained note without a big gap, couldn't you use MIDI CC 64 (sustain pedal) to continue the note after the actual note has ended? For example, have the actual note stop short of when you want it to end (as to force the next note to be a start note), and before the note ends, turn up CC #64 so that the note keeps sounding. Of course, before the next note, you'll want to turn CC 64 back down before the next note. So, the sound is connected, but the actual note data tells th next note to be a start note.

    My turn to try out the new emoticons![:D] I really like VSL's improved website!


  • Doesn't work on legato instruments, due too a bug in the VI player. That's the whole problem

     DG


  • Sorry to be a little cheeky, I was just joking. However, this is a non-issue, because of what I wrote in the first place and is being ignored.

    USE A KEYSWITCH.  It happens instantly, and creates a new bow on a note which is the SAME NOTE as the start note of the legato samples, with no gap.


  • Oh, I see. BTW, how do I change my name so there aren't a billion numbers next to it?