@Mary said:

@Sasha-T said:

Hi @bcslaam, we'll arrange a call with VSL developers to get things fixed we can fix. I believe the new VST3-based host support issues, AMD 7900 XTX and Apple M4 could be fixed. I am not sure about the rest of the issues if anything. Perhaps it just requires the update of our library and the VSL's afterward, we'll take a look into that.

Hi, I looked back in this topic just now. Believe me or not (you can check it for yourself) but the first message about an GPU Powerhouse update was on February 6 2024!!! Now it's November 11 and still the update is floating somewhere between GPU Audio and VSL. I wonder if the update is coming our way before February 6 2025!!!

I've been watching GPU audio for some time and I'm not getting a good impression from them. It seems they are not delivering anywhere. They announced a partnership with Audio Modeling SWAM a year ago and nothing has been released yet. I don't see any kind of announcement from SWAM that a GPU Audio product is forthcoming.

I'm beginning to doubt the veracity of their company.

@bcslaam said:

I just tested MIR/GPU on latest version of LogicPro and Reaper on the latest version of Sequoia 15.1.1

Consistent instant crash when switched to GPU as well...

sound device: MetricHalo ULN8 using MHLink at 128samples

Same case. Using the Mac mini (15.1.1) M4 pro I just bought to use MIR PRO 3D With POWER ...

@Sasha-T said:

Hi @bcslaam, we'll arrange a call with VSL developers to get things fixed we can fix. I believe the new VST3-based host support issues, AMD 7900 XTX and Apple M4 could be fixed. I am not sure about the rest of the issues if anything. Perhaps it just requires the update of our library and the VSL's afterward, we'll take a look into that.

Same crash on my Mac mini M4 pro (15.1.1) slave in the Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 host. Crash on GPU. Hope it wont get to much time to Fix.

Hi everyone!

We had a chat with VSL developers,

We know why crashes happen for Windows users: we shipped a Control Panel that was not necessary but a very good optional component that allows Windows users who has multiple GPUs to choose which one to use, and it is hardly dependent on the other libraries such as HIP, that make our GPU code run. Speaking in simple words, we'll fix that issue and it should not be a problem in the future.

The M4 issue hasn't been investigated yet, but I believe this lies in the hard dependencies of Mac OS X version <> Metal version that is shipped for M4 units (yes, Apple ships things badly for Metal) which breaks our code. For comparison, this doesn't happen on Windows, but we can patch it too, after the Windows issue patches.

Hey guys, just a quick heads up work in progress on both ends.

The new binaries are out and sent to VSL, now they should re-integrate them and run some QA/tests before delivering them to the user end. We fixed most of the problems, however, my M4 system is still somewhere on the way from China to the U.S., so I haven't tested the Macbook fix yet... I hope we can make some holiday season presents for everyone.

I'll receive my M4 machine in the following days, so we'll address the new M-Silicon / Metal issue in early January

Hi everyone!

In 1-2 weeks, we'll be releasing an updated platform for 3rd party developers, including individuals and companies like VSL. This will be our first public release, featuring the latest binaries, hardware, and software platforms (i.e., M4 silicon) support. I’ll confirm the exact support we’ll provide, but once it’s live and VSL integrates it, you’ll be able to upgrade on your end.

This marks the start of smoother, more transparent, and frequent updates moving forward. I'll keep you posted about the progress here. I am in the contact with VSL team.

@Sasha-T said:

Hi everyone!

In 1-2 weeks, we'll be releasing an updated platform for 3rd party developers, including individuals and companies like VSL. This will be our first public release, featuring the latest binaries, hardware, and software platforms (i.e., M4 silicon) support. I’ll confirm the exact support we’ll provide, but once it’s live and VSL integrates it, you’ll be able to upgrade on your end.

This marks the start of smoother, more transparent, and frequent updates moving forward. I'll keep you posted about the progress here. I am in the contact with VSL team.

Hi Sasha,

In 1-2 weeks it'll be a YEAR ago for the first update announcing to appear. A year ago Sasha. I guess you'd understand my skepticism. Seeing is believing in this case. Looking forward thought.

Regards,

Willem

@Mary said:

@Sasha-T said:

Hi everyone!

In 1-2 weeks, we'll be releasing an updated platform for 3rd party developers, including individuals and companies like VSL. This will be our first public release, featuring the latest binaries, hardware, and software platforms (i.e., M4 silicon) support. I’ll confirm the exact support we’ll provide, but once it’s live and VSL integrates it, you’ll be able to upgrade on your end.

This marks the start of smoother, more transparent, and frequent updates moving forward. I'll keep you posted about the progress here. I am in the contact with VSL team.

Hi Sasha,

In 1-2 weeks it'll be a YEAR ago for the first update announcing to appear. A year ago Sasha. I guess you'd understand my skepticism. Seeing is believing in this case. Looking forward thought.

Regards,

Willem

Hi Willem,

A quick update: we’re just days away from the SDK release, as the team has informed me.

To provide more context: this is the first-ever technology of its kind, created by a small startup. It’s something that can’t be built using existing frameworks like CUDA or OpenCL or SPIR-V, as they won’t allow you to handle multiple software instances with low latency. What we’re doing requires ISA-level technology to be created and maintained, which means essentially writing assembler code tailored for each GPU architecture. On top of that, we’re working with different operating systems, drivers, GPUs, and frameworks. Creating a single binary that covers all of these is nearly impossible—but we’re still managing to do it.

I understand your frustration about unmet expectations, but please know that we’re not just sitting back and relaxing. A one-year release covering Windows, Nvidia, AMD, Mac, and M-Silicon is incredibly fast for a platform launch.

Thanks for understanding!

We got SDK uploaded to the Github yesterday!

It should become publicly available in a few days. This release includes M4 support and some AMD support (some fixes, I don't know specific details yet). The next step is VSL takes new binary and integrates them back into Vienna Power House. It should not take too much of time. The ongoing GPU AUDIO Platform updates shall be easy to adopt.

The latest Platform will be available on Tuesday (PST)

@Sasha-T said:

The latest Platform will be available on Tuesday (PST)

Anyone knows yet when will be avaible the M4 compatible "Vsl power house" ?

Quelqu'un sait-t-il du coup quand sera disponible la version fonctionnel de Power house pour les mac M4 ?

Hey everyone, the SDK is out (https://gpu.audio/sdk), the binaries are there, now it's VSL's turn to re-integrate / update and ship the new version of Vienna Power House to you guys.

@H-E said:

@Sasha-T said:

The latest Platform will be available on Tuesday (PST)

Anyone knows yet when will be avaible the M4 compatible "Vsl power house" ?

Quelqu'un sait-t-il du coup quand sera disponible la version fonctionnel de Power house pour les mac M4 ?

Hi @H-E,

The M4 support is included in the binaries as far as I know