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  • Hi Mike.

    I've just made a new score as per your instructions, and i cant get the dynamics to work either...that is odd!..(they don't work at all! with or without changing the vel.XF settings) and something i must admit i haven't noticed yet, as ive been working on implimenting the synchron libraies (where they seem to work fine...but i'll go back over every stave to check as some are large) with exisiting scores and as such, havent written anything new with those libraries yet.

    I think i remember seeing a thread that referenced issues with the Vel XF, that Andi seemed to resolve, so perhaps the answer lies there (im sorry mate, i cant find the link but its not that old) and when i find it i'll post a link for you here and have a go at sorting out my playback config, but I must admit, that i like the VI Pro versions so much (they work so well with Mirx and if im honest, i prefere the sound of them too!) that ive only just recently started to work with the synchron versions (although i've had them almost since launch)

    I'll post back here mate once i've had a chance to play about with it a bit more.

    Kindest Regards

    Paul


  • Hello Mike and Paul!

    Please use the Synchron Player presets as they are with Sibelius. That includes CC2 for Velocity XFade. Otherwise dynamics will not work properly. Mike, where did you read that you should change Velocity XFade to CC11?

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
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  • Hello Mike!

    The quoted paragraph mentions VI presets with CC11 assigned to Velocity XFade, but not that you should assign CC11 to Synchron Player presets.
    If you look a bit further down on the same page, the following is written:

    Note for SYNCHRON-ized Special Edition users: The steps described in this chapter are not necessary with the sound set ā€œVE SY Special Editionā€. Velocity X-Fade gets automatically turned on for rolls and turned off again after the rolls.

    I will try to make it a bit clearer for the next manual version.

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • OK - yeah, it's not terribly clear exactly what you're supposed to do, and the note about Synchron SE, as written now, specifically applies to the drum and percussion rolls, not to other instruments.

    In my case it's probably just a hangover from years ago.  I've been using Sibelius with VSL SE since 2007, when I'm sure it was necessary to manually change the VelXF controller to 11, so I just assumed it was still the same.

    Thanks for your help.  Dynamics now working. Looking forward to the Synchron Player update with the memory fix!

    Mike


  • Hi

    It seems that we don't have Sibelius presets in synchron like in VIP...and the VIP Sibelius presets does not work in Synchron...so there are some issues when the score is playing (e.g. wrong articulations etc...)

    What is the trick?

    Best

    Thx


  • Another issue for me:

    Whan i have a VEP7 instance with 16 channels mixed with WW, BW and strings, all the strings don't play...

    An idea?

     

     

    Thx


  • Hello tousroud!

    The sound sets for the Synchron Player collections work with the factory presets. So no dedicated Sibelius presets are needed.

    It can have different reasons why articulations don't switch as supposed. Please check the Sibelius instruments in your score and your Sibelius playback configuration. Further help can be found in the Troubleshooting chapter of the "Optimizing Sibelius Playback" manual.
    https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Notation_Related

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • the steps necessary to get things to work seems too convoluted and cumbersome. regarding sound sets and Sibelius.I can't get the cells activated.. dont like having to be online to get an app to work either.


  • Hello scrimdy!

    I'm sorry to read that you are having difficulties.
    It's not necessary to be online to work with our software.

    You can find our Sibelius Integration tutorial at the following link:
    https://www.vsl.info/en/tutorials/guides/sibelius-integration/introduction

    If you need more help, please send an e-mail to support@vsl.co.at and describe in detail what you have done and what doesn't work for you. Screenshots will help us to help you.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • This might be an ok thread for a general observation concerning VSL and Sibelius set-ups for the older VI versus Synchronized libraries. Switching playback between anything VI and anything Synchron(ized) in a Sibelius score  is actually very time-consuming and therefore carries a strong disincentive to do this. I have most of the older Special Edition and some of the Synchronized one, but have not really used the latter for this reason. It's unlikely I would buy any more Synchron samples because of this set-up issue.

    I know much of this is not a VSL problem but Avid / Sibelius. From time to time posters have wished for VSL to design their own notation playback software to improve integration for playback. A lot of work, I know, and it has always been said to be unlikely. But the development of the two library groups (VI / Synchron) is a further reason why it remains desirable. 


  • Hello Oceanview!

    It shouldn't be more complicated to combine VI, SYNCHRON-ized and Synchron libraries in one Sibelius playback configuration, than combining several VI collections. I wouldn't combine VI Special Editions with SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions though. If you have any concrete problems, you can always reach out to support@vsl.co.at

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Hello Andi,

    Thanks for your comment. I wasn't thinking of combining the libraries, but what happens with Sibelius when going from a score which was all VI to the same set up for Synchron or Synchronized. Different soundset, staves and then making the articulations / dynamics, etc match. This does seem time-consuming, so for the moment I'm sticking with the VI libraries.


  • Hello Oceanview!

    I see. For old projects, I would probably stick with the original libraries, they have been made with, too. That wouldn't hinder me from using Synchron and SYNCHRON-ized libraries with new projects though. ;-)

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library