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[...]For such an advanced piece of software, I just think that this behaviour is counter intuitive.
I'm not sure how to answer this reproach. I have the slight suspicion that you're somehow expecting a typical power-panning-like behaviour you would get from a simple algorithmic stereo reverb, but that's not how actual acoustics react (... sorry if I'm stating the obvious).
I think this particular venue exaggerates the behaviour I am finding difficult to get my head around as it is very narrow. Also, when I point a violin (icon) that has upward facing sound holes at the right wall, I don't expect the reverb in the room to behave like I am pointing a megaphone at that wall.
Thanks for all the help.
Re. "directivity": Did you use the actual Instrument Profile for the violin, or just a General Purpose profile?
In any case: We put enormous efforts in measuring the actual frequency dispersion patterns of most instruments used for the original Vienna Instruments back then (... we even developed a new measurement system for the task). If you already find MIR's behaviour "counterintuitive", it would be interesting to get your reactions to some of these directivity profiles. :-D
-> https://www.vsl.info/en/manuals/mir-pro/think-mir#instrument-directivity-profiles
Kind regards,
Yeah, those flute lines are all over the place. BTW I always have the correct profile selected.
I think if there was more information coming from the floor or the ceiling?. Especially when in the 'Conductor' position it would help. Then the 100% wet signal would provide more positional information.
I think if there was more information coming from the floor or the ceiling?. Especially when in the 'Conductor' position it would help.
If I turn a trumpet or trombone player -45° then yeah, there would be a lot of reflection off the right wall. Same could be said for a cellist. But a harpist or a violinist turned -45° would have very little influence on the amount of signal bouncing off the right wall.
The weighting of the 8 (or 16) IRs relies completely on the aforementioned Directivity Profiles.
There seems to be issues with the way some of these profiles have been weighted.
What we need is icons for specific instruments that don't point in any particular direction. Or a profile that offers a more balanced directivity. A tuba points straight up, as does a saxophone. If MIR 3D allows us to point instruments straight up or 45° down, put me down for a copy.
You know - MIR Pro is what it is until the overdue upgrade is ready for prime time. If you don't like the Directivity feature or its implementation, then please just use an Omni setting from the General Purpose Profile selection for your sources and on you go. It's ok to do things differently - even an electric guitar wasn't invented to be played fully distorted :-)
Regards,
If _this_ is what the MIR Icon looks like on your system, then there's indeed something broken. 8-0 ... here you see the Icon's actual shape and the functions of all its elements.
-> https://www.vsl.info/en/manuals/mir-pro/creating-new-project#mir-icon-overview
If the problem persists please get in contact with support@vsl.co.at, including as many information about your setup as possible (OS type and version, host type and version, RAM size, CPU, any other kind of potentially influential hard- or software components).
Re - Instrument Profile: If you're referring to the Orchestral Strings for Vienna Instruments, then there's a dedicated profile available for them (01/21), based on similar directivity measurement like the ones for the Solo Violin shown in my previous posting (... which means that there is pronounced signal dispersion towards the ceiling). If you want to avoid any kind of directivity then please use the Omni-setting (00/99a) from the General Purpose profiles, or the Wide Cardioid (00/99b) if you want to hear at least a bit of emphasis towards the front.
HTH,
