Already a very lovely rendition, Paolo. Really well done!

On listening to a performance conducted by Maestro Ennio himself, (catturato a Venezia, 2007), I was immediately reminded of the need for molto vibrato when using Dimension Strings in intensely romantic pieces like this one. But rather than waiting for VSL to agree to add molto vibrato to DStrings, I'd say embedding VSL string soloists somewhat prominently in various sections would more easily secure the right feeling for this piece.

If I were to render this I'd study several of the different recordings available on YouTube, and craft my own expressive and dynamic softenings, tightenings, shortenings, lengthenings, etc, according to what I felt worked best in those various recordings. But that's just me wanting (indeed needing) to avoid the very long and deep learning I'd require to compete with the best out there. That said, I'm fairly sure Paolo will do it Paolo's way, come di solito, lol.

But in any case, attaining the final 20% of the quality of rendition and mix will probably take about 80% of the time and effort - (Pareto Principle) as always, it seems to me. And as you're already so close to a marvelously lovely emulation, I'll just wish you buon viaggio.

Macker, thank you very much for listening, your kind words as the precious hints, come d'abitudine.

The molto vibrato solution you propose is great: adding Solo Strings! They have great molto vibrato. Also, exploring progressive vibrato in DS could be useful. I've heard Guy Bacos using it in the most natural way.

I know this style is not my territory, so I had to keep some strong examples with me since the beginning. The original soundtrack; the Concerto di Venezia you cite (so beautiful!); Erik Snopko's demo for Elite Strings, to be sure of what a virtual instrument can do when used as it should; and a wonderful rendition made by one of my friends (Marcello's Theme).

So, yes, I will have to study the best models, and try to get some of their secrets. Che il viaggio abbia di nuovo inizio!

Paolo

@Macker said:

[…] molto vibrato to DStrings […]

I see I had actually added crossfades between non vibrato, regular vibrato and molto/prog/espressivo vibrato in the score. But I had not checked if the corresponding custom articulation in Dorico was really extending past the first note, and it didn't! 😞

Most of the quietest parts seem to work fine with non vibrato and regular vibrato. Progressive vibrato can add much tension to a few notes, but there is a risk of overdoing, so it is better to only reserve it to some apex. I'll try a version with these variations later.

Paolo

I've tried another solution. Since the strings in the original piece are not simply legato, but sort of legato-portato, or accented-legato, I replaced the regular legato with a legato-marcato. Playing with the attacks may give the sound I'm after.

There is still much work to do (smoothing, messa di voce…), and I also have to understand some idiosyncrasies of Dorico that I'm not sure to have fully understood.

Paolo

For the third rehearsal, I've done some more experiments, and found that increasing Legato Blur to 64 (half scale) was a good compromise. I also did a finer work on vibrato, and this also proved a noticeable improvement.

I'm discovering more and more the qualities of Dimension Strings!

Paolo

The exact articulation I'm looking for the three-note motive in anacrusis is the performance détaché. This is a legato where each note begins with a bow change, making them slightly but smoothly accented.

This is unfortunately unavailable in Dimension Strings. Something similar is in the legato repetition, but then notes last too little (it's about a half-second détaché). Time-stretching doesn't seem a viable solution.

This articulation is also available in the new Elite Strings, but also in the old Solo Strings. Blended with Dimension Strings, these latter seem to do wonders. I'll see how it works with all the melodic lines.

Layering in Dorico is not a quick task, since all CC data are to be entered by hand again, with no chance to copy and paste them in different staves.

Paolo

I've finally added the SYzd Solo Strings to Vni I, II and Viola. I find the addition of performance détaché to be very effective.

Paolo

Brillante, Paolo!

Now it's really taken off and sounds as alive and vibrant as a real live performance of the piece. I'd say you've entered popular romantic territory con onore.

Beautifully done Sir.

Thank you for your kind words, Macker! I hope to have nailed most of the issues Andi was highlighting, and made it alive enough to be credible.

I still doubt if I should keep the higher dynamic point so high, letting the music "explode", or should make it more subdued. Using sordine would probably already tame the dynamics, and this is something that I have to try.

Paolo

I've added a version with a reduced set of Dimension Strings, to match the weight of Elite Strings more closely.

Paolo

This combination sounds completely natural and very pretty. Nice work.

I bought Elite last night. One strong motive was to try it alongside SDS in a Wagner piece that has lots of divisi throughout. Thanks to your demo I'm now confident that these two libraries can share the stage very well.

Macker, happy to have been of help! I can't wait to listen to DS and ES layered. Will they sound like two separate chamber ensembles, or as a glorified "Dimension Strings" ensemble, made of concurrent instruments?

Paolo

I had to jump in quick to catch Elite's introductory price, but I'm afraid it might be quite some time before I'm ready to post a demo.

I'm hoping to use ES/DS divisi combinations in a way that to some small but vital extent will help my orchestra depart from that all-encompassing homogeneity which Karajan always strove to achieve. I believe we can now move onwards from that particular ideal (as the Berliner Phil with Rattle have already done); wonderful though it was as an ideal in its heyday.

But before I can get busy adding ES to DS in the piece I'm working on currently, I have to concoct a decent way of applying sordino to Elite in all but the CB section - and this is a horribly complicated and time-consuming task to do well. In the past I've used simple EQ profiles to approximate sordino but have never been satisfied with the results. I've started building more complex automatically-matched EQ profiles, but I'm thinking I might have to use at least two different such profiles per section: one for lower notes, one for higher notes. We'll see. It appears the mechanical-acoustical consequences of using that simple little rubber gadget are far from simple.

Anyway, I digress. I'd say you're better placed than me right now, Paolo, to take us forward with our new Elite addition to the family.

I've done some other changes. Just some smoothing in tempo and dynamics, and a more transparent mastering, with less aggressive EQ (just a hint of attenuation around 500 and 3500Hz) and very slight compression and limiting.

Paolo

Very expressive, very warm, very real, very lovely, very human; very nice work, Paolo.

Hope you've rewarded yourself for that with some of your most favourite and very Italian prelibatezze gastronomiche!

Thank you, Macker! Actually, while continuing to eat well at home, this week I had a chance to go eating a couple times to a Greek deli at the harbor. Not the typical chain restaurant, but a true family kitchen. Home-made pita, moussaka, a few dolmades. And a few kataifis. With a small bottle or retsina.

I had my rewards! :)

Paolo