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  • Oh ... what about Time stretching? Are there plans for the Synchronized products?

  • Think of SYNCRHON-ized Woodwinds as a streamlined product that reflects the instrumentation of late romanticism (Wagner et al.). Yes, it doesn’t offer some instruments and articulations that are available with VI Woodwinds, and that’s not an omission, that's the concept of this product. That’s one reason why it’s so easy to work with. Our specialized team is working on one instrument for about a month… do the math how long it takes to create such a product, and then think of the costs. We need to find a balance between what we can achieve at a reasonable price and what most of our users want. If you want more instruments and articulations and the flexibility of VI Woodwinds, you’re a specialist (highly valued by us!) whom we’re happy to continue to serve with our Vienna Instruments Pro player. On the other hand, a lot of customers are paying for a product that includes instruments and articulations they never use.

    Having said that, I’m certainly not going to rule out that there will never be any other woodwinds and articulations in the SYNCHRON-ized series. Right now, SYNCHRON-ized Woodwinds is a great solution in terms of instruments, articulations, what people are using, and how easy it is to work with this player and its pre-configured sound with lots of presets.

    And of course we’re further developing the Vienna Synchron Player to add more features over time.


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    @Martin said:

    Yes, it doesn’t offer some instruments and articulations that are available with VI Woodwinds, and that’s not an omission, that's the concept of this product. That’s one reason why it’s so easy to work with.

    I understand that. But why didn't you record woodwinds at the Synchron Stage like you did with Synchron Strings I ? I own the Woodwinds Complete Bundle from the VI Series and a new library recorded at the Synchron Stage with new samples would have been much more exciting for me than a SYNCHRON-ized library.

    Best,

    David


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    @daviddln said:

    I understand that. But why didn't you record woodwinds at the Synchron Stage like you did with Synchron Strings I

    I think they already did. Maybe it's not that easy with wet samples. Just guessing...

    The first time I watched the very first video of Synchron Percussion it was clear to me that all instruments had been recorded. At least, it sounded like that. And the seating graphic on the product page also showed the other instrument sections (and this graphic was the very first of the Synchron Series).


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    I have another question:
    Why do you have marcato longs, but not marcato legatos? The VI instruments do have these in the full libraries. Or, at least, a "fake" marcato attack as in the SYNCHRON-ized special editions.

    By the way, I just purchased it and like it so far. The non-vibrato/vibrato options are great. But I need my “Interval Map” as a controller option. 😛 


  • HOLD IT, Hold It, hold it....

    Time Out. 

    Of all the patches NOT to include... in a reprogrammed WINDS LIBRARY--

    You leave out the scale runs!?!?!? That's like... the best part of the classic VSL Winds Library! That's the hardest thing to program when it comes to winds. But that's what you guys had over everyone else! Whenever I visit with other film composers at their studios and we talk libraries, everyone says they keep VSL Winds around for the runs!  

    I'm not trying to dump on you guys here but... this company has been taking really odd steps with it's library side. The software is amazing though so I suppose you can afford to since everyone depends on VEP, but boy when those super cheese grater macs come out and people start debating if they want to run sample farms, you're going to have think long and hard about your libraries. Who is this stuff for!? I just don't get it clearly. 


  • Please, the Alto Flute is missing, this instrument is essential, please include this in the future update.


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    @Grodhisatva said:

    HOLD IT, Hold It, hold it....

    Time Out. 

    Of all the patches NOT to include... in a reprogrammed WINDS LIBRARY--

    You leave out the scale runs!?!?!? 

    Hi, I do not think that's too critical for all the WW-Solo-Istruments. There are good possibilities to "play" runs and trills (especially with the flute1 and all clarinets).
    Dynamic Scale-Runs are more difficult to "play" when it comes to Ensembles. Here I agree that the runs of the Orchestral Strings are just "Gold"!


  • Thank you very much for the new Woodwinds Library! I would like to vote a +1 for the Alto Flute please! I have it as a VI Instrument, but would love to see it join the new collection!

    Kind Regards,

    -ZWaves


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    @LAJ said:

    (Hope you continue with the "real" SY-Series soon. Most important SY-BRASS)

     

    Hi

    Do not hope too much. It will probably be a SYNCHRON-ized Brass library. I wish they had stayed with the VI Series and the Silent Stage. It was perfect.

    Best,

    David


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    I do not think so.

    If you are listening to the sound of the Big Bang Orchestra and to the Single Channels of it, what are you hearing?

    I hear the SY-Woodwinds which are pretty normal sounding. Not very good, not bad. Just Standard Woodwind- sound as we know it already from many Libraries.

    BUT...

    ... I hear BRASS which is rocking the house (especially the Deep Brass). It sounds crips, clear & even if you push it hard it sounds still noble. That's why I am so much more excited when it comes to SY-Brass.

     

    I do not think that SY-Brass will be a "best case" Library.
    ("best case" = a Setup like we see it in AudioBro's Modern Scoring Brass with all kind of measurable Instruments.)
    But on the other hand the Mix of a) Synchronized Dimension Brass and b) SY-Brass with all these MIcs could lead to an interesting result!


  • I hope you're right. It would be nice.

    Best,

    David


  • I'm loving the work done on SYzd Woodwinds.  Much more consistent velocity levels throughout.  I run it along side 

    corresponding VI libraries for the full compliment of articulations.  I'm happy.


  • The Legato-Transitions ARE smooth! That’s great.

  • I have four questions:

    1) How many velocity layers are there now?  What I'm missing in the new SYNCHRON-ized manuals (special editions, woodwinds) in general is the information on velocity layers, round robins etc.

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    3) Is there a chance to have the re-edited samples for the VI libraries, too? In the future.

    4) In the vi-control forum someone mentioned that the VI samples are normalized. Have you changed this? I think when playing e.g. the flute, it's louder in the higher registers.

    Many thanks in advance!


  • Hi, Where is a new Version? I see only 8th October ... ?

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    @Pixelpoet1985 said:

    2) I downloaded the library yesterday. Today there is a new verison. What's the difference? Do I need to download it again?

    2) For Vienna Instrument products, go to the Start menu --> Vienna Instruments Pro and launch Directory Manager. Download the update and drag the file into the Directory Manager window, this will apply the update.

    For Synchron libraries, I believe the update will automatically install through the download manager.

    You dont need to redownload the entire library.


  • What I would like to know is, what am I getting with this new library that I would not already have with the Special Edition VI Pro or Special Edition Synchron Edition libraries I already have? No new instruments and I dont see any new articulations, with exception to I think fluttertongue, and, some confusing lingo about vibrato being progressive or auto, which I dont understand.

    The video demo Guy Bacos put together is wonderful by the way, but could be easily reproduced with the Special Editions, so I dunno. Its a great price, I might have pruchased it if I werent going to be broke for the next month paying for Physics / Math classes.


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    @LAJ said:

    Hi,
    Where is a new Version? I see only 8th October ... ?

    Yes, you're right, I mixed the date up (month <-> day). Sorry.


  • 199 euro crossgrade from my SEs is a tempting price for more articulations, dynamic layers and improved crossfades!

    Any info on the number of legato dynamic layers.in the new library compared to the old? If it matches the sustains in the full versions (4 in some cases I think?) this would be a sure buy for me. +1 for an alto flute in the future also (please!)