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I'm experimenting with the new Logic. It's an incredible upgrade. The Score, however, is still very basic.
As for the lack of symbols, there is nothing one can do for the articulation representation. However, I've started using a trick to add the missing symbols: create a Symbols text style, and use it to add music symbols from the Mac Emoj and Symbols palette. It is not all that different than what you do with a dedicated notation program.
Paolo
It is very strange that we cannot add more symbols as a lot of majors ones are missing
I had a look into Dorico and I have found a list ( see attachements)
What is missing in Dorico is to add your own Articulation
This is wrong.
You can set your VSL Instrument to respond as this: X axis = Keys, Y axis = KeySwitch velocity. This works with 10.4.
Now you can use CC1 for VelocityCrossfade ;-)
Sorry this was already suggested!
For info, Art Conductor for Logic Pro X 10.4 Articulation Sets has been released (although it doesn't include VSL):
https://www.babylonwaves.com/logic-pro/
Can you see the all articulations in the score ?
It is very strange that we cannot add more symbols as a lot of majors ones are missingNot so much. The score part of Logic (once Notator Logic) has been abandoned for years, in favor of a competition with Pro Tools. Apple has started developing again the notation part in the latest years, but in the meantime it has fallen a lot behind dedicated notation programs. Paolo
Is the new Logic articulation able to control VSL by combining note plus mod wheel or do we have to reprogram everything to work with velocity? I don't like the idea of having to use velocity, it does not seem the best way to do it.
Hello
The manual is not yet availlable !
But It looks like you can define many events for an articulation (As I am on the road I cannot check this)
I was able to define two actions for an articulation number
Is the new Logic articulation able to control VSL by combining note plus mod wheel or do we have to reprogram everything to work with velocity?
As it is working now, it only allows a MIDI message with the associated values. Among the other types, it can be a Control Change with the corresponding value, or a Note On with the associated Velocity value.
I find the Note On + Velocity bundle interesting, because a single message can select two parameters in VI PRO. For the way I reprogram the factory matrices, using a single universal articulation map, it may also speed programming a bit.
Paolo
Paolo :
Did you try to put two events with the same articulation number ?
Cyril, I had not tried. I've just tried, and it seems that:
- only one of the three articulations with matching ID can be selected and assigned to a note event;
- only one (the first in the list?) seems to affect the articulation choice.
I would be very interested to see if this apparent fault (overlapping IDs) can be used for added flexibility!
Paolo
I found a solution with a bit of Environnement
See picture Attached
Another solution sending a note and a CC1 value
I have found the Manuel, it is in the Ebook, and if you have download an old version, you must UPDATE manually.
It is not done automaticaly ! in the Ebook header you must press the arrow down key and select the book you want to update. (all this time spend for nothing !!!)
In the eBook I have not found any indication on how to add more articulation symbol, neither to have multiples event on an Articulation
I upgraded to Logic 10.4 - for some reason the VSL plugin is not being recognized on my main computer after upgrading - anyone else experience this? (slaves have elicenser usb keys, main computer does not)
If you want to load VSL AU on the Main Computer you need an eLicencer key with VEPRO and VI PRO license
Hi Paul
It' looks like that in 10.4 the support of articulation if VERY basic
- You cannot send multiple commands for an articulation, you must use the Environnement to do this
- Symbol list is limited to 31 articulations for all the instruments --> no Pizz !!!!! incredible but true
i have tried to find the list file of the articulation symbol list ! no luck
I have post on the develloper list ! no answer !
Do you have any contact with Logic devellopers ?
Best
Cyril
Hi guys,
Yep, interesting news indeed. We will be looking into this right after NAMM Show!
Best,
Paul
I had my own VSL templates using keyswitch vel for the y-axis for long, so setting up an articulation set that uses them was very simple.
I do not care too much about score symbols within logic, but being able to choose the articulation directly within logic by choosing the articulation name from a drop down menu is quite an improvement over having to insert keyswitches manually, let alone remembering them all.
HOWEVER:
Logic seems to send the articulation information (ie: keyswitch) along with every midi note. There seems to be no intelligent algorithm that checks if the ID is different from the one that was played before.
I wonder if this is somehow affecting the midi performance, as each noteOn event now consists effectively of two midi messages.
Hello PaoloT
I have been starting to modify my Environment to use Articulation Changes
I am getting weird result !
I have creat an Instrument, a Multi-Instrument and a software instrument, I have assign an Articulation Table (tried with Logic's Violin and with a new one forVSL)
In my test I play a single D3, some times the note is played twice, some times it play the articulation note, sometimes not. It is not at all relayable !!!
Are you experimenting this kind of problem ?
Best
Cyril
