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  3. LOGIC 10.4 now includes Articulation change
  • PaoloTP
    PaoloTP
    You can add your own articulation sets. Unfortunately, Logic only sends a single message for each articulation, so you can't bundle two messages to select a matrix cell. More than ever, we need a way to associate a unique CC value to each cell. Paolo
  • PaoloTP
    PaoloTP
    Maybe there is a workaround. If I’m not wrong, Logic can send a keyswitch with a particular velocity value or velocity range. Vienna Player can use the Keyswitch Velocity to select a row on the Y-Axis. So, maybe the single Note On + Velocity message can select a matrix cell. Paolo
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Hello Paolo

    I have been looking without any success for the manual of the add ons of the 10.4, did you find it ?

    Best

     

    Cyril 

    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi guys, 

    Yep, interesting news indeed. We will be looking into this right after NAMM Show!

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • PaoloTP
    PaoloTP

    Cyril, it seems Apple is gradually updating the online Help.

    As for the articulation switch using KS + KS Velocity – IT WORKS!

    I just have to reprogram my orchestral template… 8-O

    Paolo
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Apparently you can define many parameters for an articulation number

    Did you find the part explaining the articulation changes

    What is bothering me is the limitation in the symbols see picture

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  • PaoloTP
    PaoloTP

    I'm experimenting with the new Logic. It's an incredible upgrade. The Score, however, is still very basic.

    As for the lack of symbols, there is nothing one can do for the articulation representation. However, I've started using a trick to add the missing symbols: create a Symbols text style, and use it to add music symbols from the Mac Emoj and Symbols palette. It is not all that different than what you do with a dedicated notation program.

    Paolo

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  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    It is very strange that we cannot add more symbols as a lot of majors ones are missing

    I had a look into Dorico and I have found a list ( see attachements)

    What is missing in Dorico is to add your own Articulation 

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  • G
    G

    For info, Art Conductor for Logic Pro X 10.4 Articulation Sets has been released (although it doesn't include VSL):

    https://www.babylonwaves.com/logic-pro/
  • S
    S

    This is wrong.

    You can set your VSL Instrument to respond as this: X axis = Keys, Y axis = KeySwitch velocity. This works with 10.4.

    Now you can use CC1 for VelocityCrossfade ;-)

    Sorry this was already suggested!
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC
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    @GilP said:

    For info, Art Conductor for Logic Pro X 10.4 Articulation Sets has been released (although it doesn't include VSL):

    https://www.babylonwaves.com/logic-pro/

     

    Can you see the all articulations in the score ?

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  • PaoloTP
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    @Cyril Blanc said:

    It is very strange that we cannot add more symbols as a lot of majors ones are missing
    Not so much. The score part of Logic (once Notator Logic) has been abandoned for years, in favor of a competition with Pro Tools. Apple has started developing again the notation part in the latest years, but in the meantime it has fallen a lot behind dedicated notation programs. Paolo
  • A
    A

    Is the new Logic articulation able to control VSL by combining note plus mod wheel or do we have to reprogram everything to work with velocity? I don't like the idea of having to use velocity, it does not seem the best way to do it.
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Hello

    The manual is not yet availlable !

    But It looks like you can define many events for an articulation (As I am on the road I cannot check this)

    I was able to define two actions for an articulation number

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  • PaoloTP
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    @Andrew James Reynolds said:

    Is the new Logic articulation able to control VSL by combining note plus mod wheel or do we have to reprogram everything to work with velocity?

    As it is working now, it only allows a MIDI message with the associated values. Among the other types, it can be a Control Change with the corresponding value, or a Note On with the associated Velocity value.

    I find the Note On + Velocity bundle interesting, because a single message can select two parameters in VI PRO. For the way I reprogram the factory matrices, using a single universal articulation map, it may also speed programming a bit.

    Paolo
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Paolo :

    Did you try to put two events with the same articulation number ?

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  • PaoloTP
    PaoloTP

    Cyril, I had not tried. I've just tried, and it seems that:

    - only one of the three articulations with matching ID can be selected and assigned to a note event;

    - only one (the first in the list?) seems to affect the articulation choice.

    I would be very interested to see if this apparent fault (overlapping IDs) can be used for added flexibility!

    Paolo
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    I found a solution with a bit of Environnement

    See picture Attached

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  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    Another solution sending a note and a CC1 value

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  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    I have found the Manuel, it is in the Ebook, and if you have download an old version, you must UPDATE manually.

    It is not done automaticaly ! in the Ebook header you must press the arrow down key and select the book you want to update. (all this time spend for nothing !!!)

    In the eBook I have not found any indication on how to add more articulation symbol, neither to have multiples event on an Articulation

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