I've always thought Tchaikovsky was the greatest melody maker. I'm so much in aw with his melodies.
Neil Sedaka is a close 2nd. :)
Guy
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I'll also take my cue from Jasen, and since we're sheepishly putting our "worst" melodies forward (maybe slowly we'll get to the better ones), I'm putting a link, not to a bad melody as such, but to a very-very early one - I've developed incalculably since... This is a fast VSL rendition (so no production comments thank you) of what was a Kurzweil K250 track, in my second TV job (and only 'cause I can't get my hands on my first), somewhere back in the late '80s (yes, I was too young and bloody lucky to have gotten my foot inside the door of national Australian television, but possession of gear that only a handful of composers possess at any time, plus a little talent, can open doors prematurely).
Apparently the documentary was nominated for a UN Award back then, so that got everybody a little notoriety.
This is the 'Main Title' theme, but this is the end credits music:
https://soundcloud.com/errikos-vaios/fractured-city-main-title
P.S.: Yes, I got paid properly, as I also had the first time around.
P.S.2: I really hate to admit I enjoyed that Sheepish Bossa quite a bit, even though I thought it was about a minute too long.
P.S.3: Agree with Guy. 'Oh Carol' is a gem (yes, yes, I almost forgot 'The Nutcracker' of course - the right season for it too).
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Troll is ugly. I'd choose a (younger) Santa or an angel instead 😉 ... so short before Christmas.
Cheers William! I raise a glass of Champagner to you and wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
And don't take music-topics and composing-topics too serious. Life is short ... and there's more!
Yes, we all share a certain passion for (not only) classical Instruments-sound here. ... not only = Think of my passion for U-he/Xilslab-Synths (or Paul's Virus TI 👍)One thing is important: Live and let live!
Again: Cheers.🍸
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Great thread William. Except I didnt feel there is a need to label anyone who doesnt want to post.
I loved Guy's melody! Fell off the chair laughing though.
Errikos, absolutely beautiful piece. I loved it so much that I am listening a third time now. Is the vinyl noise in the beginning intentional? This is in a different class.
Just so I dont get branded as a troll, here is a tiny clip (one of the 100s I have started but never finished) that will look even smaller amongst the giants posting their music here.
https://soundcloud.com/ankumar333/sketch8c
btw whats wrong with rap music? I am not a fan but I know enough to respect it as an legitimate form of musical expression.
Also I feel that "melodies" are overrated. To me there is much more to music than melodies. Most of great classical music does not have melodies, but musical phrases. John Lennon wrote more famous melodies than Mahler, does that make Lennon a greater composer than Mahler? I dont think so.
Cheers
Anand
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I see people aren't taking this thread very seriously, so I will post what I think is my greatest meldoy. [url=http://www.guybacos.com/audio/Melody.mp3]My Greatest Melody[/url]
Please push the link and listen from 2:28 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky3SlUrFJ24 ... Now we know WHO was playing the Piano;)
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There have been no good melodies since "All my Little Ducklings" and "Mary had a Little Lamb."
It's no use.
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There have been no good melodies since "All my Little Ducklings" and "Mary had a Little Lamb."
It's no use.
No Jimy I can not agree at all:
"The true goal of music—its proper enterprise—is melody. All the parts of harmony have as their ultimate purpose only beautiful melody. Therefore, the question of which is the more significant, melody or harmony, is futile. Beyond doubt, the means is subordinate to the end." Johann Philipp Kirnberger (1721-1783)
And even more true: "Different musical styles use melody in different ways." for instance.
"Melody from Anton Webern's Variations for orchestra, Op. 30 (pp. 23–24)"
This is what make "challenges" a bit difficult, since a challenge (like it is proposed in the opening-posting) assumes that there will be a certain general quality which might allow to rule out all other ways to create recognizable sequences of notes. To me this seem to be as if someone who just speaks one language believes there would be only this one language (his own) and all others were simply wrong. Or if someone only understands one single book and hitherto believes that this would be the only true one and all others with different content, Ideas or opinions must therefore be wrong simply because they are different.
For me personally I am not that much interested in composing melodies not because I dont like them, but because I know that there are already that much out there to discover and to make audible that I do have still enough to do before believing it would be necessary to ad a new one to the universe of already existing ones. I confess I always have had high esteem for those composers, who struggled to realy enrich our musical culture with new, never heard inventions. But to compose things we already have more than enough always seemed to be a lack of respect for those who have already composed such things earlier in very good quality.
To appreaciate Beethoven or Schubert mean to me not to try to make bad and outdated copies of their historical musical attitude, but to either create something different convincing in its own way as Shubert and Beethoven do convince in their very own way to compose or to show the beauty of their inventions simply with playing the music of Schubert, Beethoven or any other inspired composers of the last 1000 years music.
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I think this was a good idea for a thread, it is focused on one (perhaps the most crucial) aspect of composing. It would be interesting to have an entire sequence of such challenges, best harmonic progression, best orchestration, and so forth.
Here is a link to the B theme, the Princess Anna theme, of my piece Saint Vladimir. The theme sort of gradually morphs through several iterations. When the trombone sings with the woodwinds, the trombone represents the voice of Vladimir.
I think this is my best melody so far, but perhaps I will write a better melody tomorrow.
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I guess that challenge was a little obnoxious but whatever. Here are some of my melodic excerpts though not necessarily my "best" - that is hard to judge. I will definitely listen to these other postings - they look interesting...
You have a real talent for melody William. I enjoyed every minute of this YouTube! You had an awesome idea for a thread. Why people are not willing to cut you a little slack (is that still an expression? it used to be) I do not know.
I followed your allusion to the old schoolyard dares of our childhood when the dare was always accompanied by taunts and accusations of "chicken" if one did not take up the dare and "prove himself." Have things really changed so much since our days of youth? I find myself sad about this situation. Your challenge/dare gave me a laugh and reminded me of those days long ago. Then I read how people were responding, and I couldn't understand how they were not seeing the humor and playfulness.
But thank you for posting some really awesome music.
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I couldn't understand how they were not seeing the humor and playfulness.
obviously there seem to be more people here who felt inspired to make jokes about this "challenge" than people who found notably funny what William posted initiallly. BTW I personally have no problem to take this subject (composing melodies which is definitly a sensible point in every musical esthetic) serious and don't think this would do anyone any harm or misunderstanding.
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Hi William,
As you said, it's extremely difficult to pick one melody out of the lot. It would always be a very personal and subjective choice. I my case, I've written in so many different styles, instrumentations, with our without choir, for solo voices, orchestral tunes, themes of all sorts and purposes, religious, musical stage play... In Dutch we say: "It's like comparing lemons with apples". But I like the idea to come forward with one preferred melody or tune or theme (whatever you have meant).
This one could in some way be representative (from about 4:32 to 5:40). The rest is mainly a fully orchestrated Czech folk song for choir and orchestra.
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Jasen I didn't hear any steaming in that example. Also the other melodies sound better than the composer's opinions of them. But since this topic is changing into "worst' I have been inspired to find my worst melody now. I have done some truly sickening ones, including one written for a golf course commercial that should have resulted in my imprisonment or at least a large fine.
Anyway it is interesting to hear these separated from the development in the original pieces. I was doing this partly to look over my own also, wondering what I would find. It is impossible to judge though.
However, I do have to say that Guy's composition is one of the most magnificent examples of Post Modern Minimalism I have ever heard. The way he incorporated a subtle nod to tradition - and therefore a connection with the past - with the V-I cadence at the end fills me with admiration. The espressivo throughout was masterfully handled, the touch delicate yet firm. Bravo!
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Hi William,
As you said, it's extremely difficult to pick one melody out of the lot. It would always be a very personal and subjective choice. I my case, I've written in so many different styles, instrumentations, with our without choir, for solo voices, orchestral tunes, themes of all sorts and purposes, religious, musical stage play... In Dutch we say: "It's like comparing lemons with apples". But I like the idea to come forward with one preferred melody or tune or theme (whatever you have meant).
This one could in some way be representative (from about 4:32 to 5:40). The rest is mainly a fully orchestrated Czech folk song for choir and orchestra.
Very beautiful. Well done indeed.
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My contribution is a piece for accordion, clarinet, and harp. I wrote it for my wedding and Becky and I got the chance to perform it live with one of the top Canadian harpists, Erica Goodman. This version though, features live accordion, clarinet, and midi harp (long before we knew how to really work with virtual instruments).
Passages for Accordion, Clarinet, and Harp
Sincerely,
Dave
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This is a nice melody I had scored for a movie a long time ago, I think has some Brahms-ish qualities:
Scene from Eternal (2004) scored by Guy Bacos (All done with VSL back in 2003)
Later I used this same theme to write a "Theme and Variations" piece, and also did a version for piano and cello which will be performed in 2018, but this is the piano version.
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My contribution is a piece for accordion, clarinet, and harp. I wrote it for my wedding and Becky and I got the chance to perform it live with one of the top Canadian harpists, Erica Goodman. This version though, features live accordion, clarinet, and midi harp (long before we knew how to really work with virtual instruments).
Passages for Accordion, Clarinet, and Harp
Sincerely,
Dave
Well it sounds great. A lovely melody. And since I am unused to a clarinet, harp and accordian ensemble, it sounds very fresh and like nothing else I have heard. Marvelous!
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This is a nice melody I had scored for a movie a long time ago, I think has some Brahms-ish qualities:
Scene from Eternal (2004) scored by Guy Bacos (All done with VSL back in 2003)
Later I used this same theme to write a "Theme and Variations" piece, and also did a version for piano and cello which will be performed in 2018, but this is the piano version.
This is a beautiful melody, and I much prefer it to the first one you posted. I find the harmony particularly pleasing and an integral part of the appeal of the melody.
