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  • Using an Algo Reverb with MIR PRO

     

    What are the technical considerations I need to know when using an algo reverb with MIR PRO? What paraameters do I need to tweak on the algo reverb (and on MIR PRO) to effectively increase the reverb tail of a MIR PRO venue?

    I want to avoid introducing uneeded resonance by going with this approach.

    Thanks,

    -Nektarios 


  • Hi, 

    Why not use MIRacle (included with MIR PRO) and check out the presets optimized for the various halls?

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @nektarios said:

    What are the technical considerations I need to know when using an algo reverb with MIR PRO? What paraameters do I need to tweak on the algo reverb (and on MIR PRO) to effectively increase the reverb tail of a MIR PRO venue?

    I want to avoid introducing uneeded resonance by going with this approach.

    Adding reverb to reverb is a purely aesthetic decision, so it's mostly a question of taste and style-dependent considerations. There are no "hard facts", so to speak.

    In general, I would try to avoid the use of Early Reflections from the algorithmic reverb: IRs are much better and more authentic in this. I would try to get those nice (and sometimes quite kitschy 😉 ...) modulations from the algo reverb's tail. The reverb tails from IR won't modulate.

    There are several approaches when mixing IRs and synthetic reverb. The tutorial section of MIR Pro's manual covers a few of them.

    HTH,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    I do use MIRacle, and like it, I just need to understand the basic technical considerations.

    Dietz, this is exactly what I want to know, how do I "disable" the early reflections from the algo reverb? Adding a pre-delay? I will also check the manual. 

    Thanks,

    Nektarios

    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    Why not use MIRacle (included with MIR PRO) and check out the presets optimized for the various halls?

    Best,
    Paul


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    I read parts of the manual for combining MIRacle with MIR Pro. This is some complicated stuff. I think the approach on page 54 is what I need, and I'll attempt!

    @nektarios said:

    What are the technical considerations I need to know when using an algo reverb with MIR PRO? What paraameters do I need to tweak on the algo reverb (and on MIR PRO) to effectively increase the reverb tail of a MIR PRO venue?

    I want to avoid introducing uneeded resonance by going with this approach.

    Adding reverb to reverb is a purely aesthetic decision, so it's mostly a question of taste and style-dependent considerations. There are no "hard facts", so to speak.

    In general, I would try to avoid the use of Early Reflections from the algorithmic reverb: IRs are much better and more authentic in this. I would try to get those nice (and sometimes quite kitschy 😉 ...) modulations from the algo reverb's tail. The reverb tails from IR won't modulate.

    There are several approaches when mixing IRs and synthetic reverb. The tutorial section of MIR Pro's manual covers a few of them.

    HTH,


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    @nektarios said:

    I do use MIRacle, and like it, [...] Dietz, this is exactly what I want to know, how do I "disable" the early reflections from the algo reverb?
    As MIRacle has been made for exactly this task, it doesn't produce early reflections. I've been refering to algorithmic reverbs in general. Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Great! Thank you!