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  • I read that Herb agreed in Dimension Strings 2 con sord. and Dimension Brass Extended muted Brass. So I think this comes next.

    Software? A Upgrade especially for the Vienna Suite is really necessary. I still miss the Transient Designer and a Noisegate. A Channelstrip like in Cubase would be the ultimate Killerfeature. I like All in One concepts!!!

    But where Did you hear or read that Herb said Dimension Wood is not necessary? I totally disagree in this.

    The Choir ... Hmmmm ... forget what the VSL-Poster shows ... I think after all the years they droped the Development.

    greetings Lars


  • I don't remember Herb himself specifically saying that Dimension Woodwinds is not necessary, but I do remember the general consensus being that there are already two flutes, two bassoons, two oboes, etc so nobody really seemed to think that more than that would be necessary.  Also woodwinds are very forgiving when you use the "transoposition" method so that makes four instruments very easy to come by.


  • Please add 'Dietzmix' button to VEPPro which analyses my mix then makes it sound like it would have done had Dietz mixed it.

    Please add 'Beat Kaufmann' button to VIPro which analyses my musical phrases and selects the articulations for each note that Beat would have done.

    Please write a 'Guy Bacos' plugin for my sequencer for those times when I get writers' block.

    Thank you.


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    @Stephen Rees said:

    Please add 'Dietzmix' button to VEPPro which analyses my mix then makes it sound like it would have done had Dietz mixed it.

    Ha! I could point you to mixes I did which would make you reconsider that wish. ;-D


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Dietz said:

    Ha! I could point you to mixes I did which would make you reconsider that wish. ;-D

    I find that hard to believe [:)]


  • Dietz have done Mirx - and that is, in my view, much closer than anyone else to "Pretty Mix Switch" :)

  • Apologies, I got my wires crossed somewhere, I vaguely remember hearing somewhere on here that Dimension Woodwinds wouldn't be necessary, and must have confused that with Herb's comments in the Dimension Strings interview about the differences in chord arrangements for woodwinds.

    All I could suggest is that I'd love to see one or two video tutorials with Guy taking us through the process of making one of his demos, from start to finish, so that we could see not just articulation choices, but also mixing and workflow, and I could hopefully work out why his pieces sound so much better than mine...

    Pyre

    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.59Mhz Processor, 64 GB RAM, Windows 10.0.19045, Cubase 10.5.20, Sibelius 7, VEP 5.4.16181, VIP 2.4.16399, Symphonic Cube, MIR Rooms 1-5, Suite, Choir, Organ, Imperial, Solo Voices, Dimension Strings, Historic Winds, World Winds
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    @Pyre said:

    Apologies, I got my wires crossed somewhere, I vaguely remember hearing somewhere on here that Dimension Woodwinds wouldn't be necessary, and must have confused that with Herb's comments in the Dimension Strings interview about the differences in chord arrangements for woodwinds.

    I didn't mean to imply that Herb never said this, apologies! Just that I don't recall the source of the comments we're discussing.  


  • I wouldn't be surprised if they finally released the strings as DL Insturments.  They've covered pretty much everything from the major collections to individual instruments, so I'm feeling like it might be time for the Solo Strings to become DL Instruments.


  • As far as wish-lists go... some extended techniques for any of the string libraries would be a lovely evolution. And with respect to a "Beat Kaufmann" switch, an algorithm, or algorithms, for analyzing phrases for figures, period structure, arsis-thesis structures, etc. might provide a way to auto-assign articulations. A learning system could infer a composer's style and provide custom assignments based analysis of previous works and their signatures, a la the work of David Cope. None of this is science fiction anymore!

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    @jhstrong said:

    I wouldn't be surprised if they finally released the strings as DL Insturments.  They've covered pretty much everything from the major collections to individual instruments, so I'm feeling like it might be time for the Solo Strings to become DL Instruments.

    They already are DL instruments, aren't they?  I downloaded all of DS.


  • I meant as Single Instruments.  My apologies.  Like, I could be able to download just the single violin or single viola.


  • Aah that makes more sense!


  • Detailed, written documentation, please.


  • Here are my suggestions:

    A violin section where the bowing uses different directions while playing various sustained notes and legato. For example: if you have 14 players, 7 would play legato and/or sustain up-bow and the other 7 players would play down-bow.

    I would love to have open strings for solo, chamber, and orchestral strings.

    While I am dreaming I will suggest Baroque instruments.


  • Another month of Discounts !  

    But, still nothing new announced  [:^)]

    Maybe Sept. ? or Oct. ? ..... or 2015 ? ... ? 


  • Usually ( but not always)  in the mid Fall , VSL has student discounts. I doubt that anything new comes in that period...it would be nice though;) . Maybe after ..or could be 2015.


  • I'd love to see an update of Vienna Instruments Pro that makes editing Dimension Strings easier. I'd also like a choir library with realistic text rendering. Nobody has managed to do this successfully IMHO, so perhaps it's up to VSL to show them how it's done [:D]


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    @esperlad said:

     For example: if you have 14 players, 7 would play legato and/or sustain up-bow and the other 7 players would play down-bow.

    I would love to have open strings for solo, chamber, and orchestral strings.

    Well, one of your dreams has come true.  Dimension Strings has open strings, and the option to automatically "force" them or avoid them as you wish.

    As for your other request, I don't see why you would want your players to use different bowing from one another.  So much of string bowing is cenetered around the most natural way to play a line, and any good conductor would keep that mostly consistent.  Sure you'll have one or two players who sometimes feel more comfortable bowing differently, but that's the exception, not the rule, and most lines have a very obvious natural rhythm to a string player.  Downbeats will tend to suggest a stronger downbow, upbeats will tend to suggest a lighter upbow, if there's a longer sustained note coming up they'll alter their bowing to prepare for it, etc.  Rather than to make an option where half the players use a downbow vs the other players using an upbow, I'd love to see an option to control the starting bow and the bowchanges thereafter.  The difference is subtle but it could potentially breathe some more life into the samples.  In my opinion it's too subtle to really worry much about, though.


  • Will we see new and exciting VSL products in Sept. ? or just another discount offer ?