Hi Julian,

"Never say never!", ;-) ... but at least in case of MIR Pro I can assure you that we have no plans to switch to GPU-processing in the forseeable future.

Kind regards,

PS: ... although we in fact _had_ plans for that back in 2004! (I just looked it up.) ;-D

@cm said:

teardown macPro

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+Pro+Late+2013+Teardown/20778

http://blog.macsales.com/22108-new-mac-pro-2013-teardown

confirms the CPU is sitting in a socket ... just the PCIe SSD appears to be proprietary and i wonder if the 1TB model contains 2 of those devices (completing the symmetry).

So this would mean getting the maximum  PCLe memory right now. 

@cm said:

i wonder if the 1TB model contains 2 of those devices (completing the symmetry).

It's a single module.  The Mac Pro has used all of the available PCIe lanes.  So there is no possibility without a chipset change to allow for two SSD modules.

As usual I am abandoning Mac for cheaper PCs.  I recently found  a Dell XPS 8700 i7 4th generation computer that maxes out to 32 gb RAM and 4 cores. So get two of them and you have an 8 core 64 gb sample player.  And the cost?  $1,700.  Compare that to the Mac Pro model.

Julian-  I am thinking those figures in that article are very skewed.   They don't translate into real world use of CPU/RAM/processing in general.  Though on paper they are impressive.

Hi William

You cannot compare an I7 and a Xeon processor !

It's like comparing a Audi A6 to a Ferari !

Best

Cyril

The question is academic anyway.   

This is not academic, if you want to compare two processors you must compare the inside of each, the DMA channel spead ....

Look at the price of a Xeon and to an I7, Xeon are going to more than 3000 $

Cyril - Yes it is completely academic. Never mind.

William

You are playing a bad game sending a version of message and changing it after on the forum

For those who are readind this thread these are the last two messages I received form  William :

1) That's bullshit !  These are the latest i7 processors !  You cannot say that Cyril !  You are wrong ! 

i don't understand why every mac-related discussion sooner or later must turn into a religious debate ...

if William is happy with the *inferior* i7 for his purpose - who cares.

if Cyril wants to max out every available performance option - let him go.

if i had to choose a processor i'd go with the latest i7 http://ark.intel.com/de/products/family/79318/Intel-High-End-Desktop-Processors/desktop since i'm not sure if it wouldn't be a good idea to have as much processor cache as possible.

actually more important IMO are the 4 memory channels which the i7 also provides.

having everything under one hood can be comfortable, though currently i'm not sure which audio device i had to choose for a macPro and i'm convinced i would need 3 or 4 external devices anyway.

so please continue this thead in a productive manner, say hinting to mac pro related news (like thunderbolt devices) and such, otherwise i will close this thread.

thx, cm

Hi CM 

May be you did not understand my words.

You say : if Cyril wants to max out every available performance option - let him go.

This not what I mean, I say you cannot compare an I7 to a Xeon, it is normal that you can buy a computer with I7 at 1700$, but you cant get a computer with a Xeon processor at 1700$ when the processor on it's own is sold by Intel just under 3000 $

For me I am very happy with my 12  core configuration, I have not problem to use my 100 instrument  template with very heavy scores

Concerning using TB for audio, this is another discussion ! there are very few affordable solution availlable. Speaking to Motu lately about a TB 424 they said that they are not thinking of this for the moment.

I might be able to help with this topic in a couple of weeks time. Currently I am using a 12 core (24 thread) machine and will be taking delivery of a new 10 core (20 threads) machine very soon. I'll run one of my heavy sessions on both, and then I will be able to say how much improvement, in terms of processing power for audio, there is. Obviously my machines are Windows based machines, and in terms of spec are very different from what is included, or even possible with the new Mac Pro, but it will give some idea of processor differences between the new ones and the older models.

What I can't help with is anything to do with 4K filming, because I have no experience with that.

DG

@Another User said:

if William is happy with the *inferior* i7 - who cares.

i'm very well aware of the differences between i7 and E5 xeon (let's limit us to the IvyBridge models)

but for most people it is just a question of sufficient outcome for reasonable money.

 http://ark.intel.com/compare/77779,75283

i for myself would never choose an i7 for a database server, but also never an E5 xeon for a workstation - hope you get my point.

Mac pro article v.s. HP v.s Lenovo

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013

@cm said:

Hi CM

Thanks, very interesting !

Did you see my PM ?

Best

Cyril

@cm said:

i for myself would never choose an i7 for a database server, but also never an E5 xeon for a workstation - hope you get my point.

So for a VSL slave with MIR PRO 5.1 what will you use ?

For a VSL workstation for a 100 instrument tremplate with MIR PRO 5.1 ?

An internet program in French about the new Macpro : http://yakyakyak.fr/2014/01/emission-on-refait-le-mac-special-mac-pro/

Speaking of TB 2 :

In this French emission they say :

- that we could think of clustering Macpro,

- that they transger a 150 Gb file, it took 22 minute on Ethernet and 4 minutes on TB 2

For those who speak French Igor has made a test of the new Macpro with Logic X :

http://yakyakyak.fr/2014/01/focus-mac-pro-logic-x-entretien-avec-igor-bolender/