@Rob Elliott said:

Call off any possible holidays and half your usual night's rest.   Oh yea - you can forget about any plans for Octoberfest!!!

...secretly want to be Herb...

Hi,

meanwhile, feel free to experiment and share your knowledge [:)]

Best,

Paul

I most certainly would be in the minority but I will voice my opinion anyway. Of all the sound libraries I know, I take my hat off to the towering quality of the VSL. One of the reasons is the wonderful playing of the VPO, and the 'purity' of the sounds (I don't know how to articulate that better, I am 90% musician 10% techie).

The other reason, is that it is the only top-shelf library which doesn't provide Hollywood Winds-like presets. I have explained my reasons in an older post, but I have a real problem with ready-made chunks of orchestral/instrumental music, offered to and used by musical illiterates to disguise their indigence, and to show off to directors/producers work that is not their own. Now I don't live in the US and I don't usually face the tough deadlines capable composers do over there, and as far as that is concerned I do sympathize. However, let's be honest, a lot of people buy those orchestra-in-a-box products because the musical building blocks those companies provide would take those people weeks to notate - if they could do it at all... Now, some people don't have a problem with this (I acknowledged my minority status), some others don't mind pirating VSL sounds, you can find Logic Studio free downloads and other cracked software on the internet in abundance as you know; usurping other - more talented - people's work and passing it off as one's own is becoming less and less of a big deal. I know that these other libraries are built and sold with that kind of mentality, but that doesn't make it any less of a talent trade-off in my eyes.

I  ask the VSL team to consider the proud tradition of orchestral music and juxtapose that to a lot of DJs who introduce themselves in social situations as composers, before they offer Williams/Elfman/Zimmer/Shore snippets to sorry figures, enabling them to masquerade themselves as musicians. Characterless, generic presets like scale runs, arpeggios and the like of course are always welcome; Indiana Jones marches and E.T. flying stabs should not be. And most importantly...

... enough with these cloned Toms/Taiko passages in every single action sequence already. Are you people really SO uninspired? Instead of crippling down the path of least resistance, listen to the masters...

First off - I agree with much of what you say.  One HUGE favor, Errikos - how about some paragraphs[;)]

No sample library or REAL instrument for that matter will make poop smell any differently.  I have always believed that it is 'not the wand but the witch'.  I am not asking for (presets of functionality) anything that is not inherently built into the new VIPRO - controllability of static sample snapshots.

The new VIPRO is wonderful and I have already used it today to make my living - but 'starting point' presets would save me time to concentrate on the very thing you allude to  - the writing.   Every day my personal goal is in finding a unique 'voice' in a sea of competition. 

Thanks again VSL for this new 'tool' - really wonderful. 

Fixed the paragraphs.

Rob, I'm glad someone agrees with me, even to a point. I know that you know I was not referring to guys like you; I've heard your stuff and I can tell that you are asking for functionality and efficiency, as opposed to crutches/prosthetics. Also, I agree that "no library will make poop smell any differently" - as yet! My problem is that with so many people entering the industry with ill-advised confidence (just listen to all those cloned demos in all those websites...) and somehow getting work, the public - and most importantly directors and producers - slowly but surely are just getting used to that 'smell', just like when you visit a farm. Not that this could ever be called great, or even good music, but I'm so afraid that it could become the acceptable standard, especially when software is increasingly getting better all the time at covering inadequacy.

I would just like to repeat, that characterless, generic musical blocks such as scales, scale-arpeggios, bariolage, harmonic glissandi, etc., that are most difficult to reproduce with single-note samples, are most welcome and will immediately find their way into my shopping basket.

Thanks Errikos. WOW - this vipro is GOOD!!!!!   Wish I had more time to really sit with it (and the vids).   Outstanding VSL - just outstanding.   What a facelift you have given to your libraries.

Hello

I am back for holidays[:(]

Is there is any news about the New Presets using the new feature of VI pro ?

Best

Cyril

+1 interested owner!

Paul wrote above:

@Another User said:

I agree 100%, and there will be presets - we just didn´t want to hold back VI PRO just because of presets, as it´s just too great a tool to work with as it is!

This will take some more time, it´s still a lot of possibilities and we´re trying to find the best way of making use of the new features, in a well-organized way that doesn´t come with an overwhelming number of presets (which would be even more confusing)....

I understand this logic. However, I find the best way to learn is from examples. Having VSL-made presets will be incredibly useful to users like myself.

Regards - Colin

It still would be very useful! But I think that's not in "to do" list...

VI PRO 2 will be delivered with more than 2300 of new matrix and preset files for all library categories (DVD collections, Downloads, Special Edition)

All in all I've worked 8 month now preparing the content.  [:S]

best

Herb

[:P] OLÉ!!!

[:O]! In fact my post pretends to be an action - reaction from VSL!

Really congrats guys! 

Herb, If you need holidays after that, you are invited to Mallorca to a house in front of the beach, but remember to come with a "little" present box from VSL ...

Jaume G.

Alcudia, Mallorca

 Where exactly are the presents and matrices stored?  Are they the last 2 .dat file for each instrument?

Herb,

I just wanted to also add my appreciation for all you do for my musical world.  I know this sounds a bit silly but in my head I have always been a "darling, you make my sandwich and I will make yours" because it always seems to taste better when she does it and she always claims mine is better then when she makes it.  The point is, when I hear and see your examples I love the sound but never believe I am quite getting there, even if I am.  Giving me a ready to use perfect sounding starting point increases my confidence to be able to tweak a little and have a great finished sound.

I really look forward to the update and truly appreciate all the presets you will give us.  99% of the time, I use Dietz settings in Vienna Suite because they sound so good.  I don't really understand the logic of why to move certain ones up and down so his presets have been my god send.  I hope that these VI Pro updates will do more of the same for me.  Mixed with my soon to be MIR update...  my god I have goosebumps.

Maestro2be

Great news Herb - looking forward to the updates and the presets.