Hi Willy,

I hope you didn't missunderstood my psoting

You will need a VE PRO & MIR license to get MIR PRO for free (including a free VE PRO 5 update).

best

Herb

Dietz, that is very good news.  Does this mean that the upgrade price from MIR SE > MIR, will remain the same for MIR SE > MIR Pro?

If MIR PRO has everything VEP5 does... then what's the point of having a separate product? I realize that some people don't want MIR (or can't afford it) and still want VEP5- but why would anyone buy both? Is there literaly no feature in VE5 that MIR PRO will not have? I'm just a bit confused on that point.

-Sean

P.S. While the MIR price has been voiced... ISH... any 'ish range' of what VE5 will be?

There is literally no feature in VE Pro that MIR Pro does not have - simply because MIR Pro is a mighty, additional application which happens to completely rely on VE Pro's capabilites for communication with the outside world. :-)

Look at it that way: VE Pro is the host. MIR Pro is a big (very big) "meta-plugin" that can be instatiated inside this host exclusively. MIR Pro is no "separate product", but an additional one. An extension.

HTH,

WHEN???!!! :D

It depends how far the corner is [;)]

Hopefully the corner is just around the corner.

I have no idea if there will be Epic Orchestra for VE Pro 5, but you could always get VE Pro 4 now and upgrade to 5 as soon as it will be available. I'm sure that the upgrade fee won't be considerably higher than the actual price difference.

HTH,

@Dietz said:

I have no idea if there will be Epic Orchestra for VE Pro 5, but you could always get VE Pro 4 now and upgrade to 5 as soon as it will be available. I'm sure that the upgrade fee won't be considerably higher than the actual price difference.

Quesiton: I thought I read somewhere that like AMD, Intel is also going to be pushing a graphics dye or something similar for better GPU results. I also read somewhere about convolution and using a graphics card for it (although that was some time ago and I've only seen that mention the one time).

So if utilizing such new designs, would MIR be able to lower the system load? I realize that it is already, but I mean for even big projects, etc. If not, what is tasking the system on large projects to much? I'm trying not to ask for too complicated of an answer. If it helps, my two main concerns are... 1) will these things help MIR? 2) If not, what do I need to look for in future cpu's that will influence MIR's task on the system the most? Although the first question is my nerdyness asking... I ask the other because I'm going to be changing my setup to accomodate MIR better before I eventually buy it. I just want to make the best decisions possible.

Thanks,

Sean

P.S. Thanks in advance if this is answered... I don't mean to bother anyone at VSL as it's certainly a busy time there... I am in no hurry to have this answered.

Hi Sean,

GPU-aided convolution was indeed a topic we discussed during MIR's development, and in fact we were in contact with a company which was one of the driving forces in this area seven years ago. Those were exciting times! :-) ...  Nevertheless, I think it was a good decision to go for the "conventional", CPU-based solution back then. But "never say never": As the standards of GPU-based number-crunching get more and more reliable, we might also take this route one day.

Regarding future CPUs: Processing speed never hurts when it comes to convolution, as well as fast busses. But don't forget that there are other limiting factors, too, like poorly written audio system drivers. I'm sure our IT wizards will prepare a list of tried'n'tested components like for MIR Pro like they did for legacy Vienna MIR.

Kind regards,