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  • i didn't know that firewire can be complicated with laptops!!! what aboiut if i connected my audio driver via USB, or even USB 3?

    Cyril, what's stopping me is that this live performance is going to be every week, yes, every single week, now it will start at 7 pm, i finish my job at 5 pm, so ihave 2 hours to get to my home, change my cloth, eat something, unplug the desktop, g to the place, plug the desktop, test the devie and hmmmm what do i forgot....... breathing [:D][:D]

    that's why i'm tinkng about getting a laptop [:)]

    the problem is that i can't estimate how a processor will act from reading its sspecifications [:S]

    i'll try to bring some info about mainstream laptops that i have in my market and le's see what works best, if it will work!

    i really appreciate your help folks, thanks a lot


  • Be aware that "main stream" laptops can tend to cause problems as they often use cheaper components that sometimes do not deal well with the high stress loads of DAW use.

    USB can work as an interface, though other options are generally better.  One company, RME, does produce very highly regarded USB interfaces, but those are not cheap.  They are known for good drivers, and for live stage use, having something that rock solid could be a plus.

    As stated before, I would urge you to contact a company that specializes in computers for music production/performance.

    Another option, though not one I know much of anything about, would be to get something along the line of a portable cube computer.  A DAW maker might very well offer something that would be robust enough, for less money than a laptop, and then you could add a dedicated LCD monitor.

    It would also be a good idea to continue to do more research before purchasing anything.  The last thing you need is to discover all kinds of major problems - that perhaps cannot be fixed - after your purchase.  For casual/hobby use one can manage to use all kinds of non-optimal equipment.  For what you are going to be doing, you will not have that sort of error margin.  You need something that will do what you need, and work well.

    Unfortunately, the only companies I know of or have dealt with are in the US, and that will likely not be of help to you.  The one I have purchased from in the past is ADK, and they do offer a specialized laptop.


  • noldar12 thanks for your warning and advice, the problem is.... as i know, there's no special copmanies in selling laptops for music here in Syria and i don't know if i can find a cube computer

    and probably the only availabe are the mainstream laptops !! looks like i'm gonna end up with a deskop after all ....

    i'll continue researching and get back to you guys


  • Look at the "refurb" on Apple site, you can get 20 % off 

    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_pro?mco=MjEwNzM3NTk

    This is the refurb of US, you must select yours [;)]


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  • Great question here, I was wondering the same as I'm going to get VSL SE and want to know if I can use my current Mac Pro 2008 2.8Ghz 8-core. However, I am currently on OS 10.5.8 with 10GB RAM. I'm assuming you guys are talking about RAM usage under OS 10.6 as per the 64-bit architecture, and therefore able to utilize a LOT more RAM...It would be great to stay with my current system as I have everything pretty stable where it's at...but then I guess I'm limited to 4GB RAM in 32-bit. I was actually going to build myself a PC slave to use with Hollywood Strings...but do to the fact that the instuments in VSL, as a whole, sounds much more like what a real orchestra sounds like...and I much prefer concert music to film music. I actually noticed a post from Jay Bacal, which is now several years old, who seemed to have quite a bit of success with just using 3-4GB RAM on a PC using the VSL SE. Thanks! David

  • all this depends of how many articulations you are going to load in memory


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  • I do realize that Cyril...but since I don't know how much memory each articulation takes up I can't really tell. Looks like you have a pretty big setup as far as RAM goes and probably have no problems. My biggest thing is that it would be nice to just upgrade my OS to 10.6 to be able to utilize all my RAM rather than build a slave PC, of course, IF my Mac Pro will be able to handle all the samples easily. Again, the only reason I was going to build a PC slave is because Hollywood Strings uses a TON of RAM and I guess doesn't work nearly as well on Mac as it does on PC...and since VSL uses so much less memory and is a bit more optimized for Mac (I think)...anyway, those are my concerns David

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    @davidl466 said:

    I do realize that Cyril...but since I don't know how much memory each articulation takes up I can't really tell. Looks like you have a pretty big setup as far as RAM goes and probably have no problems. My biggest thing is that it would be nice to just upgrade my OS to 10.6 to be able to utilize all my RAM rather than build a slave PC, of course, IF my Mac Pro will be able to handle all the samples easily. Again, the only reason I was going to build a PC slave is because Hollywood Strings uses a TON of RAM and I guess doesn't work nearly as well on Mac as it does on PC...and since VSL uses so much less memory and is a bit more optimized for Mac (I think)...anyway, those are my concerns David
     

    AFAIK OSX has been 64bit since Tiger. In any case, SE can be loaded into around 4GB, so you should have plenty for that.

    DG


  • In the documentation of each VSL instrument it give you the size of what you are going to load

    You can work with VSL in 2 ways

    1) you build your orchestra as you are writing your song

    2) You have your whole orchestra with all it's articulations loaded into memory and you write your song (my choice)

    In case 2 you nead a lot of memory, in my setup I need 28 GB (24 GB of RAM and 4 GB of swap used)


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  • Yes, good point Cyril, and I agree option 2 would be ideal...just to have it all there if you need it. And in that case, it seems that a slave PC would still be a good idea (with 24GB RAM), especially for adding more articulations or other libraries down the road. Although I must say...I have 10GB RAM right now in my Mac Pro and would probably do pretty well with the SE and SE+ if I just upgraded to 10.6. This would cost $29 for OS 10.6 vs. $1,000 for me to build a slave PC...which would mean I could probably get SE+ because I'd have an extra $1,000 to spend (my budget is about $2,000 right now...Again, I just want to know that my 2.8Ghz 8-core running 10.6 would run pretty smoothly with the Vienna samples. So, Mac Pro upgrade to 10.6 or PC slave?? That is the question. -Bill Shakespeare