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Hello
I have install my 3 x 64 GB ssd on the RocketRaid 2322 on my Macpro.
My Orchestral template loads all the articulation of all the instruments of SE plus , Appassionata and a few downloaded instruments
It take 12 minutes to load when it is on my SSD raid, 20 minutes on a raid of 6 raptor and 30 minutes on a 1 TB Hitachi
I will post more detail tomorow
Best
Cyril
My VE PRO SERVER 64 bit template
It has 79 instruments and is taking 13 GB in memory:
It has 8 VE Pro that contains all the articulations of :
Analyzing the loading of the Pro server 64 bit shows that peak reading is 35 MB/s
But it is not at all constant,
Questions
- Why is VE pro server taking 1.81 GB of VM and 11.44 GB of Real Memory, I have 16 GB
Xbench tests :
HD Hitachi 1 TB :
Results 69.23
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.4 (10F569)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro2,1
Drive Type Hitachi HDS721010KLA330
Disk Test 69.23
Sequential 126.03
Uncached Write 142.17 87.29 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 140.23 79.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 90.76 26.56 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 152.54 76.67 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 47.73
Uncached Write 16.62 1.76 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 127.91 40.95 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 105.02 0.74 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 158.72 29.45 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Results 189.02
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.2 (10C540)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro2,1
Drive Type SoftRAID_Media
Disk Test 189.02
Sequential 184.82
Uncached Write 397.87 244.29 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 284.49 160.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 79.54 23.28 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 328.66 165.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 193.42
Uncached Write 140.74 14.90 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 447.28 143.19 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 181.60 1.29 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 171.43 31.81 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Raid of 3 64 GB Crucial SSD 6 Gb/s running at 3 Gb/s
Results 374.77
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.4 (10F569)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro2,1
Drive Type SoftRAID_Media
Disk Test 374.77
Sequential 233.01
Uncached Write 285.57 175.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 354.05 200.32 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 103.98 30.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 817.67 410.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 956.97
Uncached Write 637.54 67.49 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 586.51 187.77 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 2645.89 18.75 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 1892.58 351.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.4 (10F569)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro2,1
Drive Type HPT DISK 1_3
Disk Test 209.39
Sequential 132.35
Uncached Write 165.65 101.71 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 178.82 101.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 69.79 20.42 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 234.44 117.83 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 501.06
Uncached Write 353.11 37.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 333.56 106.78 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 1973.44 13.98 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 607.39 112.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]
And since the drive is that much faster, less samples would have to be buffered, which would decrease load times even more.
Vienna guys, PLEASE add an option to lower the buffer setting, with SSD it can be much lower.
Hello DG,
what do you have in your template ?
@DG said:
Cyril, those loading times seem rather high for a 13GB template. My template is around 24GB and it takes around 22 minutes on the slower studio machine using regular 7200 drives.
DG
@DG said:
Cyril, those loading times seem rather high for a 13GB template. My template is around 24GB and it takes around 22 minutes on the slower studio machine using regular 7200 drives.
DG
Hello again
Is it the speed with the new VE PRO using the new VI PRO (Version 6776)
My Mac is made with 2 Intel x 5365 3 ghz using 667 Mhz memory so it is older than your
Cyril
I cannot answer to your PM
---- my answer -----
Hi DG
Just did an informal test:
- 9 GB template (VSL only, 4 instances of VePro)
loading time 1:50
- 14 GB template (the same as above + 1 VePro with quite a lot of Kontakt)
loading time 3:50
this is on a PC slave i7-930 with Crucial RealSSD 240 GB (main machine is a MacPro), no RAIDS
Win 7 (64 Pro), everything in 64bit
I have the feeling that RAIDing SSDs for samples wouldn't make it still faster ...
Greetings from sunny Austria
Michael
Hello
With DG comment, I have find out that my template is using much more than the 16 GB I have in my Macpro !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MenuMeter was reporting bad results [:@]
Using Monitor.app I have find out that it starts swapping [:@]
I have done a test with the New VE Pro 6776 using VI Pro, the loading take more time !
I will install BigTop and I will do more test today with templates that does not go over my 16 GB !
Concerning your comment about the Raid 0, look at the Xbench results I have posted !!!
Best
Cyril
Ah, ok ...
When i built this sample machine I planned 12 GB, but one week later ordered another 12 GB for it, for a total of 24 GB [Y]
it really showed
Sorry I overlooked your RAID numbers, you are right. I decided against RAIDing only for the sake of simplicity. Maybe with a 20 GB template I will think again ...
All the best Michael
Hello
With DG comment, I have find out that my template is using much more than the 16 GB I have in my Macpro !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MenuMeter was reporting bad results
Using Monitor.app I have find out that it starts swapping
Best
Cyril
I would cut that test template down to around 10 or 12GB, becuase the nearer you get to 16GB, the more the OS will screw with the test results.
Is it possible (I can't remember what you have) to set up a template using only the Appassionata, and then we can compare? Or if you like, I'll do it. It doesn't matter whether or not it is a useful template; it's just the amount of samples to be loaded that would help with comparisons.
DG
Hello
If I load my Appassionata template after the SE plus template it takes 4 mn to load
If I load my Appassionata template first it take 31 seconds
Looks I will have to buy more memory !
Who wants to buy my 2x2GB stick ? 120 euro ? if you buy 6 stick I will give you the 2 X 1GB Mac stick delivered with the Macpro
Best
Cyril
Xbench using Apple Raid software :
Results 435.94
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.4 (10F569)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro2,1
Drive Type apple raid
Disk Test 435.94
Sequential 271.31
Uncached Write 290.71 178.49 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 354.19 200.40 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 133.22 38.99 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 1027.17 516.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 1108.77
Uncached Write 778.76 82.44 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 637.48 204.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 3025.05 21.44 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 2357.15 437.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Hello
Here is some graphics
1) Loading my 12 GB template :
ftp://www.cyrilblanc.fr/public/loadingvsl.png
2) Copying VSL LIB !( 113 GB ) from a 256 GB SSD to A Raid 0 of 3 x 64 GB SSD
ftp://www.cyrilblanc.fr/public/ssdraid.pdf
Comment :
If I load separately all the elements of my mframe64 it takes 4 mn, if it is VE pRO server that is loading all of them it take at the best 13 mn with the Raid 0 os SSD
this is all the test I have made :
ftp://www.cyrilblanc.fr/public/vsltable.png
Best
Cyril
