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Hey, Albert.
Here's something you can try while using Logic 8 with VE2. It's been a while since I've used VE2, but I know I did this in VE3.
You can make copies of Vienna Ensemble, and rename them (VE 1, VE 2, etc.). Then, you can load each copy as a new VE implementation. Each copy you load up, should give you a new 2.8 gig of memory.
As I said, I don't recall if VE 2 allows this, but I think so. If it works that way, you can save a lot of money and time!
Good luck!
@dayadon said:
You can make copies of Vienna Ensemble, and rename them (VE 1, VE 2, etc.). Then, you can load each copy as a new VE implementation.
Hi Dennis,
this is actually what I already have done when working with Finale and VE 2. So, yes, it does work and each copy gives me "new" memory. That is how I've been able to work with this template (ca 5 GB) directly from Finale. (Several standalone VE 2 and send midi from Finale via IAC-buses)
But as I said earlier, I rarely use Logic (or any other DAW for that matter) so I just remembered that I did not use VE 2 at all last time I did a mockup in Logic. I had problems with controlling automation for the different midi channels when using VE 2 as a "multi instrument" (I think that is what they call it?). Basically, I loaded one VI on each track/channel and had no problems at all.
So my new question is: Will I be able to make use of more RAM in Logic 9 (64-bit) if I load my VI's directly into Logic? (and not use VE 2/VE Pro at all)
Is it possible for someone from Vienna to shed some light in this matter?
@cm said:
a 64bit VI is currently passing testing cycles ... stay tuned
thanks christian. Forgive me for being slow but I would still need Logic 9 (64 bit) if I want to exceed the 2-3 GB RAM limit? Right? Or would this be possible in Logic 8 (32 bit) as well with 64bit VI?
btw, I'm on OS X 10.6.2
@cm said:
a 64bit VI is currently passing testing cycles ... stay tuned
thanks christian. Forgive me for being slow but I would still need Logic 9 (64 bit) if I want to exceed the 2-3 GB RAM limit? Right? Or would this be possible in Logic 8 (32 bit) as well with 64bit VI?
btw, I'm on OS X 10.6.2
Actually this is a very good question. Historically VI has worked the same as VE on OSX, using memory outside of the host. If this is still the case with the 64bit version of VI, it seems it would be possible to use the same connector method, enabling you to use a 32bit host, but with this 64bit plug. However, as many Logic users already complain about having an extra click with the current method (poor darlings [;)]), it may well be that it should be hosted the same way as most normal plugs, requiring the 64bit version of the sequencer.
DG
It's not just Logic users DG, it's any sequencer on the Mac.
Yea,
That would make sense now that Logic is 64-bit. -- Full memory use and the need for a VSL Instrument GUI that reacts like the native Instrument Interfaces. Things are looking up.
Yea,
That would make sense now that Logic is 64-bit. -- Full memory use and the need for a VSL Instrument GUI that reacts like the native Instrument Interfaces. Things are looking up.
IMO there also needs to be a feature, like with VE Pro, in all sequencers (does this already exist in DP?)where there is an option to keep samples loaded whilst changing projects. I have experienced the "oh dear I closed the project by mistake" error, costing half an hour of re-loading, so that's why I moved on from VI/VE to VE Pro.
DG
@DG said:
IMO there also needs to be a feature, like with VE Pro, in all sequencers
Agree.....
Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine..... (uses Logic). I might have to start a crusade of Logic Whiners and get black hoodies with mascot names on the back and chase down those bully Cubase/Nuendo users.....
Be afraid, we have infinite whinning powers... And there are many of us... Strength in numbers!
Maestro2be
@cm said:
a 64bit VI is currently passing testing cycles ... stay tuned
thanks christian. Forgive me for being slow but I would still need Logic 9 (64 bit) if I want to exceed the 2-3 GB RAM limit? Right? Or would this be possible in Logic 8 (32 bit) as well with 64bit VI?
btw, I'm on OS X 10.6.2
Actually this is a very good question. Historically VI has worked the same as VE on OSX, using memory outside of the host. If this is still the case with the 64bit version of VI, it seems it would be possible to use the same connector method, enabling you to use a 32bit host, but with this 64bit plug. However, as many Logic users already complain about having an extra click with the current method (poor darlings 
), it may well be that it should be hosted the same way as most normal plugs, requiring the 64bit version of the sequencer.
DG
I just received this reply from VSL support:
"We are currently finalizing our tests for the next update of Vienna Instruments, which is going to be 64-bit.
To answer your question: yes, it is going to be possible to instantiate Vienna Instruments 64-bit in a 32-bit host sequencer and still have access to all the RAM installed on your computer!"
Good news! [:)]
Christian,
For us Logic 64-bit users, will the interface respond like the native Logic instruments and the current Spectrasonics 64-bit instruments with a single click or will there still be a server window that one will need to navigate through first before opening the instrument interface?
