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  4. Strauss Zarathustra with Altiverb versus Zarathustra with MIR
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    and another test....

    http://www.filmmusikstudio.de/other/Zarathustra-Test.mp3

    [:)]
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    When I listened to this I really thought wow! That's amazing, but again, when I directly compared it to the MIR version I still have to say that in my opinion the MIR version wins in terms of instrument location and realism. But anyway, I do not think that the Zarathustra is the best piece of music to do this sort of comparasion. The leading instruments are spotlighted by the composition itself in a way, that location of the instruments and stereo imaging is not too crucial for enjoying the music. I would be interested to hear MIR within a tutti setup e.g. the last section of le sacre with these sorts of polyrhythms and complexity that the makes location of the instruments an important criteria in understanding the music. I wonder whether MIR is capable of handling complex tutties (at least with a regular 3-3-3-3 4-3-3-1 setup rather than the sophisticated instrumentation of stravinsky) with the current hardware setup ?
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
    I'm sure we will be able to check this Really Soon Now ;-)
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    really? ... :-) ... ive us a hint....?Musikmesse??
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
    That's no secret any more: Vienna MIR DL is officially announced since NAMM 09 and should be ready for release only a few weeks after Musikmesse.

    -> [URL]http://vsl.co.at/en/65/71/393/1165.vsl[/URL]
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Hi again, one question I forgot to ask at the musicmesse... having heard the MIR in action was really stunning, I completely forgot about this :-)

    so if you load the Instruments into the MIR do you have still the VI Player to edit  the keyswitches etc and if not can you still load single patches creating your own patches or does the mir always load presets... if that is the case, how do the switches (like legato, staccato etc) work?
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    The functions and features of Vienna Instruments don't change within MIR. All additional information is put "on top" of them, so to speak.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Differences are quite obvious indeed!

    What worries me A LOT with MIR is you need only 1 PC to run a full orchestra. I'm now using 3 PC (and big configs) to get a decent workflow in MIDI only and real time processing. I'm concerned about having this much power need delievered by 1 pc even if it's a i7 with 12 gigs....also, too bad it works only through audio and not network.

    Being a real fan of VSL I trust them but I have to admit I'm very skeptical and I may stay with VE3 + altiverb!

    Hopefully I won't!
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    Hi Ramu

    I may be wrong, and I have been before[:$], but I believe MIR needs a powerful computer to run on it's own. It won't make your other PCs redundant. They'll still be required to run your libraries and DAW etc..

    Colin
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    @ct1961 said:

    Hi Ramu

    I may be wrong, and I have been before, but I believe MIR needs a powerful computer to run on it's own. It won't make your other PCs redundant. They'll still be required to run your libraries and DAW etc..

    Colin

     

    MIR is also the slave computer, as it hosts your samples as part of MIR. Anything on other PCs will not be included in the MIR processing. it may well be that when an option exists to host 3rd party samplers or audio files in MIR that it would be possible to feed the audio stream from a slave PC. I don't know, but for now it's one or nothing.

    DG
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    @DG said:

    MIR is also the slave computer, as it hosts your samples as part of MIR. Anything on other PCs will not be included in the MIR processing. it may well be that when an option exists to host 3rd party samplers or audio files in MIR that it would be possible to feed the audio stream from a slave PC. I don't know, but for now it's one or nothing.

    DG

    This is why I'm kind of worried 😊 But I have big faith in the VSL team! I will use my 2 slave pc as 3rd party VST host (viva Vienna E 3 PRO :))
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    @ct1961 said:

    Hi Ramu

    I may be wrong, and I have been before, but I believe MIR needs a powerful computer to run on it's own. It won't make your other PCs redundant. They'll still be required to run your libraries and DAW etc..

    Colin

     

    MIR is also the slave computer, as it hosts your samples as part of MIR. Anything on other PCs will not be included in the MIR processing. it may well be that when an option exists to host 3rd party samplers or audio files in MIR that it would be possible to feed the audio stream from a slave PC. I don't know, but for now it's one or nothing.

    DG

    Thanks for correcting me DG. Obviously mis-read previous posts re MIR.

    So that is the second time I've been wrong.[:O]  First time was being persuaded by that salesman to buy the Special Edition and subsequently getting drawn into the world of VSL. Can hardly afford a pint these days, never mind MIR and an i7. Mind you, six months ago I was saying the same about Appassionatas, Woodwinds, Brass, Percussion, Harps, Bosendorfers, Solo Strings etc.[:D]

    Colin
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    Hey Brian,

    I really love the sound of your version (as well as the MIR of course). I was wondering if you don't mind, if you could tell me your setup

    1) What Altiverb IR's are you using?

    2) How many IRs? Are they for different depths?

    3) Do you use pre or post send?

    I haven't got a mix with altiverb as good as that and so would really appreciate your input.

    Thanks!