Hildegard von Bingen apparently used to go down a storm at Barmitzvah's and weddings - so I defer to your greater knowledge on this one Angelo.
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Well, I don't know Angelo personally, so I was taking it that these composers are his favorites -- his very, very specific faovorites. [;)]@PaulR said:
So whaddya think of Angelo's list? Do you think subjectively it's the most overblown, pompous load of bollocks you've ever seen?Mahlon
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[quote=PaulR]
Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179), English Hildegard of Bingen, was an artist, author, scientist, philosopher, physician and composer etc..
SHE is the first composer with an musical biography:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegard_of_Bingen
Her music is fabulous. Her work "Ordo Virtutum" is called the first form, and is possibly the origin of opera:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Virtutum
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Antiphonar, 12th century
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd269/AngeloClematide/CodSang388_2.jpg
Tropen, Ordinarium and Sequences (930-940)
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd269/AngeloClematide/CodSang484_5.jpg
Cantatorium (922) the oldest neumen handwriting of solo singing
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd269/AngeloClematide/csg-0359_046.jpg
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"Student, Love, Drink and Bandinage Songs" (1519-1520)
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd269/AngeloClematide/csg-0462_009_9.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd269/AngeloClematide/csg-0462_010.jpg
Here the two hq image of the "Student, Love, Drink and Bandinage Songs":
csg-0462_009_9.jpg
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2cz70b
csg-0462_010.jpg
http://www.sendspace.com/file/q3r6nn
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... Shallow people can put on a classical record and be sure to impress others with their good taste. No risks, no research, no thinking required... just status. Music from the composers such as I listed require a depth of knowledge and passion.
Any surrealists out there, or maybe even a contemporary? Anyone an innovator of new music... or only the old conservative opinions of the boring bourgeoise?
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Well, my three favorite three composers would not be Beethoven, Bach and Mozart but more like Vangelis, Suzanne Ciani and Gary Numan. Each one "an innovator of new music." In this case, electronic music which, incedentally, is really what sampling is all about isn't it? I see your point of thinking outside of the box but one can't deny the contributions of the big three to modern western music. Our music.
So do my selections conform to your "surrealist" request Mr. Clematide? Or am I "shallow" as well.
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@jasensmith said:
Well, my three favorite three composers would not be Beethoven, Bach and Mozart but more like Vangelis, Suzanne Ciani and Gary Numan. Each one "an innovator of new music." In this case, electronic music which, incedentally, is really what sampling is all about isn't it? I see your point of thinking outside of the box but one can't deny the contributions of the big three to modern western music. Our music.
So do my selections conform to your "surrealist" request Mr. Clematide? Or am I "shallow" as well.
Are you crazy, tired if life.... wanna get killed by the expert crowd here?
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@William said:
BTW Angelo, I lied on that other thread. I did not actually like that insipid little piece of Muzak you posted, which could have been played on a General Midi module from the 80s (and sounded like it). I was trying to be conciliatory, but I should have remembered that old saying, about casting pearls among swine...
BTW... William, doesn't matter that you don't like it; the song will be in a movie and then it gets arranged and recorded with musician, that's enough for me
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Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179)
It's the dates that I just love. HAHAHAHA! I just love all those dates.
One of my favourites is Sugar Sugar by The Archies (1968-1971)
Or according to Angelo - Sugar Sugar by The Archives. Who can tell anymore?
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"Sugar Sugar" is a nice song, but I was already out of puperty at that time.
About the archive ---> I wouldn't find anything without organization:
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@jasensmith said:
Well, my three favorite three composers would not be Beethoven, Bach and Mozart but more like Vangelis, Suzanne Ciani and Gary Numan. Each one "an innovator of new music." In this case, electronic music which, incedentally, is really what sampling is all about isn't it? I see your point of thinking outside of the box but one can't deny the contributions of the big three to modern western music. Our music.So do my selections conform to your "surrealist" request Mr. Clematide? Or am I "shallow" as well.
Are you crazy, tired if life.... wanna get killed by the expert crowd here?
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Crazy? No I'm not crazy. At least that's what the voices in my head keep telling me.
Since this forum is only reserved for the "experts," then I suggest we stop posting Mr. Clematide.
In music, as in any form of art, there are NO EXPERTS!!!!
What you may think a masterpiece I might think is no more a contribution to western culture than a picture of dogs sitting around playing poker.
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hmm... Rihm, Saariaho, Gubaidulina, Lachenmann, Lutoslawski, Sorensen, Stravinsky, Mahler, Mozart...
Pole, Boards of Canada, Chris Clark, Regina Spektor, Aphex Twin...
I don't know... Those are the people I'm actually listening to on a fairly regular basis. By no means an exhaustive list. But I'm definitely an expert on my own personal taste! ;-)
J.
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[quote=jbm]hmm... Rihm, Saariaho, Gubaildulina, Lachenmann, Lutoslawski, Sorensen, Stravinsky, Mahler, Mozart...
And I an expert on my personal taste. Excellent point J.
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I really need to CLARIFY something here, the point was not that Bach, Beethoven or Mozart MUST be your top 3 favorite composers, but when they're not even in the top 100, to me that looks bizarre!
I highly agree that Bach, Mozart and Beethoven are unreachable. Mozart makes me cry almost every time I hear his music. But although I grew up with his music and knew the piano concerto in d-minor better and earlier than any children´s song, i actually disliked him in my youth - so I must have been bizarre these days. I was 20 years old when I began to like him, and now (being an atheist) he almost makes me believe in god. Regarding respect, BMB MUST be in the top 100 (in the top 10), regarding personal taste, they need not necessarily. Speaking of personal taste: I think John Dowland wrote beautiful music.
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*Edgar Varèse
*J.S. Bach
*Frank Zappa
*Gustav Mahler
*Igor Strawinsky
Ravel has some nice moments, Schubert ain't bad (not the songs please), Samuel Barber occasionally touched me, some of Chopins music is deep, Hector Berlioz wrote some great orchestral works
*Charlie Parker
*Miles Davis
*Gil Evans