I was thinking the same thing, somewhat more belligerently and obscenely... though I guess Big Brother is watching.
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@DG said:
I would have thought that the right to freedom of speech negates all that cp*p
Slander and perjury are just two examples of types of speech that can get you into serious trouble because of the damage you can do to others with mere words. And good luck to anyone relying on the First Amendment as a defence against shouting 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre.
The right to freedom of speech is a right that must be used wisely; it isn't a 'get out of jail free' card for whatever harm can be done with words alone.
@DG said:
I would have thought that the right to freedom of speech negates all that cp*p
Slander and perjury are just two examples of types of speech that can get you into serious trouble because of the damage you can do to others with mere words. And good luck to anyone relying on the First Amendment as a defence against shouting 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre.
The right to freedom of speech is a right that must be used wisely; it isn't a 'get out of jail free' card for whatever harm can be done with words alone.
Of course not, but nobody is going to tell me whether or not I can tell someone how much I charge.DG
@DG said:
Of course not, but nobody is going to tell me whether or not I can tell someone how much I charge.
When that someone is a potential or actual competitor of yours, I think you'll find that the US Federal Trade Commission disagrees with you, and they are supported by over a century of legislation and court judgements.
In all seriousness, when people have gone to jail because they had an after-dinner conversation about commission rates, it shows that some kinds of speech are considered threats to the public trust in the US (hence, 'anti-trust'), and prosecuted accordingly.
Note that I'm neither defending nor advocating the situation, just pointing out the potential danger, and showing you where you can find links to real legal information and advice.
That is all. [:)]
@DG said:
Of course not, but nobody is going to tell me whether or not I can tell someone how much I charge.
When that someone is a potential or actual competitor of yours, I think you'll find that the US Federal Trade Commission disagrees with you, and they are supported by over a century of legislation and court judgements.
I also don't care what they think either. [;)]
DG
@William said:
I keep on agreeing with DG on this. In fact, I basically don't believe it. I can talk to anyone about anything that is non-violent or non-slanderous and can sue your ass off if you try to stop me.
DG
fcw says that we can legitimately obtain rates by obtaining "surveys published by reputable trade or professional bodies."
So, I would like to pronounce that THIS THREAD IS AN OFFICIAL SURVEY.
Also I would like to announce that I am a professional body. (160 lbs., 8% bodyfat)
The line starts here, ladies.
Clark
This page contains links to the New York standard union rates for most musical categories incuding orchestration.
http://www.local802afm.org/frames/fs_wage.htm
Arranging fees are not set. The requirement is that the rates are higher than those for orchestration. You should also be aware that these are the union minimums and do not neccesarily reflect the actual rates charged by experienced pros.
Be Well,
Poppa