well gettings hands mucky sounds like a good idea.  i take total control of my pc so im prepared.   i hacked the school computers and messed their network  for a while but restored it at the ryt moment or used someone elses account so iv not been caught..yet!

I NEED SOME DARK DOG!!!!!!!!!! lol  after my band tour  to itally and france in october im now addicted to DARK DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andi, Andi, Andi!

Your the first person I've heard whose got VE to work with SIB5.

I'm having a big problem. I have downloaded VE several times and everytime put the VE.dll file in SIB VST pluging folders but SIB5 won't show VE as a playback device even after a rescan. I've deleted and reloaded the VE software a couple of times but still the same.

Did you encounter any problems getting VE to show up as a playback device? and ideas?

@DaveTubaKing said:

Andi, Andi, Andi!

Your the first person I've heard whose got VE to work with SIB5.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait for proof. [:D]

DG

well i will get a ram optimizer on the intsallation media.  is thta compatible with the vienna enesmble, so if it was, could i ues it to only load up the samples i want thereby using les ram?

Dave, for me it worked right from the start and I didn't encounter any problems. I did not put VE.dll or any other dll in the Sibelius VST plugins folder. In the playback devices menu in Sibelius you can tell Sibelius where your VST plugins folder is. So you don't have to duplicate any of your dlls.

Hope that helps.

farmergiles, I can not tell you if your ram optimizer (whatever it is) will be of any use. However we have a RAM optimizer built in our Vienna Instruments, which gets rid of all the samples that are not in use.

Andi

thats the one im talking about andi  it was said on a video tutorial about ram optimization   i was hoping sibelius will use it since its built in:)

ps  VSL IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN EWQL

btw no need to calll me farmergiles just call me tim farmergiles12@hotmail.co.uk is my email and msn address

well put!!

right, ive just placed the order for the standard and the extended librarry of the special edition.   will it be disptached from austria  or rae there any bases in the UK im hoping i can get it early next weak

lol true true, i better control myself

hmmmm cud i assign a controller on my yamaha motif ES8 such as moulation wheel,  ribbon controll or a button to switch between articulations, for example switch between sustained, deteche, pizz, legato etc on a cello in real time or is it all done on computer?

Yes, if you are good enough.

DG

well i do a lot of jazz myself and it wud be nice if it was possible to control different dynamics and velocaty ranges with the saxes, trumpet and switch between sustained and mute...you get the idea.  that wud be good for soloing and live performing.  real time control.  i cud juts assign one button or a key  to change articulations and use a pedal to control dynamics  couldnt i?  what do you think?

 Andi et al,

I'm still not having any success getting the sound set for VE to allow for 16 channels and to save as such.  I'm not sure what I am doing wrong when I try to set the number of midi channels to 16 in the Sound Set Editor.

Can you give me the idiot-proof step by step breakdown of how I need to go about this?  Everything I try still gets the same results:  The number of channels reverts back to one as soon as I close out that playback window, regardless of whether or not I save.

Much thanks,

O 

How to make the Sibelius Soundset for Vienna Special Edition compatible with Vienna Ensemble. Step by Step.
1. Close Sibelius
2. Open the Sibelius Sound Set Editor.
3. File - Open... - Open the "VSL Special Edition.xml" Sound Set File.
4. Set Number of Channels to 16.
5. File - Save
6. Close Sound Set Editor
7. Start Sibelius
8. Open your Sibelius Project
9. Play - Playback Devices
10. Remove your Vienna Instruments or Vienna Ensembles from the active Devices List
11. Add Vienna Ensemble
12. Set Sound Set to "VSL Special Edition"
13. Go to Manual Sound Sets
14. Set Number of Channels to 16
15. For each Channel choose your desired Program
16. Apply for each channel before you go to the next one
17. Save your Configuration
18. In Vienna Ensemble choose the desired Matrix file for each instrument and set it to the same MIDI channel as in Sibelius.
19. Save your Vienna Ensemble Project.
20. In Sibelius save your Score.

I hope that was helpful. 

Andi

 Hi Andi,

Thanks for taking the time to write out the instructions.  This all makes sense to me, except that I can't seem to actually find the "VSL Special Edition.xml" file. 

I was assuming that it would be here:

/Users/your username/Library/Application Support/Sibelius Software/Sibelius 5/Sounds

However, it is not.

Any thoughts?

Omid 

Hello Omid. 

My description was refering to a windows PC. As I can see now you are working on Apple. I think the sound set files you get with Sibelius (like the VSL Special Edition sound set) are hidden (on Apple) or not available for users for editing. However you can make additional sound sets and put it in the folder Users/username/Library/Application Support/Sibelius Software/Sibelius 5/Sounds.
Please contact Sibelius if they know a way to edit preinstalled sound set files on Apple or if they can send you the xml.file to edit. The way of editing should be the same as on Windows PC.

Andi

 Thanks Andi!  Will do.

Omid 

 So, here is what Daniel said on the Sib site.  I will try it in a moment.  I would never have figured this one out on my own, so perhaps this info will also help some others out there.

"On Mac, the default sound sets are built into the application. You can
find them by right-clicking (or Control-clicking) on the Sibelius 5
application icon, choosing Show Package Contents, then going into
Contents/Components/Sounds.

I suggest you make a copy of the VSL sound set to avoid changing the one
in the package: put yours in the location you originally looked for it,
and Sibelius will thenceforth use your copy in preference to the one
included inside the application package."
 

ok guys  special edition came today  everything works great and sounds nice  BUT  where is the vsl xml soundset  file  this is on windows xp and not a mac   i cant find it anywhere including the folders in sibelius 5 and in vienna instruments  it seems i appear to be missing it 

can someone send me it   please  i need to strat work asap 

thanks

timmy