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  • Austin, you say that the 990's controllers can't be reprogrammed.

    In Cubase's MIDI-MIDI Filter, can controller 7 be changed to something other than volume? I haven't used Cubase in a very long time, so i apologize for having to ask rather than to speak out of turn.

    The MIDI-MIDI Filter can befound in the Preferences dialog in File Menu on the PC; on Mac, it's in the Cubase SX/SL menu.

    If it CAN be done at all from within Cubase, it will be on the MIDI-MIDI Filter page. If not, it will have to be done under the hood, since volume is set to controller 7 as a default. Editing BinHex code is not my forte, so I won't say anything regrettable.

    The only other solution is to get a small programmable controller device to be used in conjunction with your 990. M-Audio has some cost-effective options, for example...

  • Thanks JWL for the response. I looked and it appears that SX 3 doesn't have any options except to remove controllers all together or a specific one and if I do CC 7 then it is just dead. I'm thinking of perhaps getting another keyboard instead. Any suggestions? The Studiologic VMK 188 Plus looks nice and can have the pedal inputs programmable. Anybody use this one? How is it?

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    Sorry if a better solution wasn't available, Austin.

    I haven't used the VMK 188, but the features look great. Seems that there's a price drop on it at the moment at sweetwater.com.

    For an even more cost-effective option, check out the M-Audio Keystation Pro 88

    Something I was looking at with a few more options for programmable bells and whistles is the Novation ReMOTE SL. It might work well for me only because I have a Yamaha P80 which I'm loath to part with. Great weighted keyboard feel, but no controllers.

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    ReMOTE SL specs

    It's a shame Novation doesn't make an 88-key weighted version.

    Seems that the VMK might be the way to go. I'll have to check that out myself...

  • JWL, I never used Midi thru so could you buy something like the Remote SL and plug in a volume pedal, switch the CC number so that it just is using VI's VELXFADE and use your other main 88 keyboard (via midi thru) for everything else? This might be a cheaper route...Or would you have to use one keyboard at a time and record the 'other' information (CC stuff) with the Remote SL?

  • btw, what is the difference between CC7 main volume and CC11 Expression? I noticed some keyboards have Expression inputs instead of Volume which mean CC7. Would 'expression' work with the VI and not cause a problem like CC7 does?

  • Hi Austin, Jumping in here with an update on the earlier discussion.

    I use a Peavy DPM C8X master controller keyboard and thankfully it has the ability to configure what data the pedals send. My volume pedal is <CV Pedal 1> and I have set it to output CC 14 data. As a result, it no longer sends volume info, but simply controls whatever I delegate to CC 14.

    So....it is possible.

    Re your last post: My understanding is that CC 7 controls the main volume of whatever you are playing. So, if you are driving a channel on a Roland JV2080, CC 7 will lower and raise the basic volume output of that channel. CC 11 however can be set to control various aspects of a preset which may increase/decrease vibrato/modulation/feedback etc - whatever the patch is pre-configured to respond to.

    Hope this helps
    Colin

  • Thanks Musos for your responses [:)].
    It appears that programmable pedals are essential to really use the VELXF feature in realtime unless you use something like a breath control but I've only seen that included with the UF8 (CME) keyboard.

    So, can you use a small keyboard controller for just the programmable inputs and use the masterkeyboard to play the keys using 1 midi track in cubase? How would that work? Midi out of masterkeyboard to midi in of the small controller keyboard that has the programmable pedal inputs and then out of that in my midi in of my sound card?

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    @Austin said:

    Thanks Musos for your responses [:)].
    It appears that programmable pedals are essential to really use the VELXF feature in realtime unless you use something like a breath control but I've only seen that included with the UF8 (CME) keyboard.

    Austin, you might like to consider one of these:

    http://www.midisolutions.com/prodbth.htm

    DG

  • Well guys, I actually did find a way in Cubase to switch the CC number!!! WAHOO [:)]...it's in the "Input Transformer" which isn't located in the preferences/midi so I'm all good. I just don't have a control now for the CELLXF but having VELXF accessible is a huge plus. Thanks for the help.

  • Congrats, Austin-!! Well done.

    Yes, musos' last response answers your earlier question...