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  • What a disappointment...
    [:(]
    Is Cubase so much better than Sonar?

  • Roger,

    Cubase isn't better than Sonar at all. They do the same thing. I think most the head guys at VSL use Cubase, therefor VSL is programmed and tested more naturally with Cubase. I think Herb the CEO at VSL uses Cubase. I bought Cubase because I couldn't wait for this fix in CakeWalk. Worse case scenario is you'll have to deal with the extra step until they find away to patch this hole.

    -Ben

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    @dunk187 said:

    Roger,

    Cubase isn't better than Sonar at all. They do the same thing.
    Well, I'd have to disagree. I used Sonar for years, but once I started up with Cubase (Nuendo), I never looked back.

    Don't get me wrong, sonar is a great app. But, IMO, Cubase is much, much better.

  • Hi just got confused on the cakewalk compatability.

    cakewalk - is it possible to MIXDOWN internally using the vsl performace tools. According to the forum people are having problems BOUNCING to tracks .
    However, it may only be this persons set up. Is there a recomended set up for use with cakewalk. I mix everything internally, and want to deal with cables and noise gates etc, as little as possible.

    Gigastudio - is the requirment gigaSAMPLER will not do?

  • You can always bounce in Gigastudio and import the wav files to Sonar. GS3 also supports Rewire (more or less, some seem to have trouble with it). So no cables needed for both.

    Not sure what you meant with your question about GigaStudio/GigaSampler?

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    @dunk187 said:

    Roger,

    Cubase isn't better than Sonar at all. They do the same thing.
    Well, I'd have to disagree. I used Sonar for years, but once I started up with Cubase (Nuendo), I never looked back.

    Don't get me wrong, sonar is a great app. But, IMO, Cubase is much, much better.

    Well, after some time I have now Cubase SX3, and (unbelievable!), now I got render my midi tracks with VSL Performance Tool directly in my sequencer...

    But I still have a problem: I just can render in "real time" option on, i.e., when I try to render in the normal mode (fast), I get like a "quantized" audio...

    So, there was not a much better solution... [[[:(]]] [[[:(]]] [[[:(]]]

    Does anyone know how can I render a track using VSL Performance Tool, Cubase SX3, Gigastudio 3, VSL Midi Router, all these things, in a "fast" (normal) render?
    Thanks in advance.

  • Hi rogeriodec,
    Don't know if this comes to you to late...but...I've figured out how to bounce vsl via performance tool in sonar.
    Let me know if you need this info....works great, no bugs (have to use slow bounce) I have sonar 4 studio ed.

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    @Billy Rubin said:

    Hi rogeriodec,
    Don't know if this comes to you to late...but...I've figured out how to bounce vsl via performance tool in sonar.
    Let me know if you need this info....works great, no bugs (have to use slow bounce) I have sonar 4 studio ed.


    Thanks, Billy. I would like to know these methods.
    [[[:D]]] [[[:D]]] [[[:D]]]

  • Hi rogeriodec,
    I will get this together for you and give you a detailed description - took me like 6 hrs to figure out! The documentation is well...you know.
    I'll check out my configuration when I get home (at work now..drudge)
    Briefly off the top of my head i'll try to explain:
    You need 3 (midi) tracks for an instrument:
    One going to the perf. tool -
    One coming from the perf tool -
    and One to record the midi info coming from the perf tool track AFTER you've inputted it (live or step time) - so 3 tracks - I call them..say:
    Track 1 = Vn1 to Ptool
    Track 2 = Vn1 from Ptool (nothing gets recorded on this track) but you MUST have the monitor button ON in this track to hear what your playing when playing on track 1
    Track 3 = Vn1 data from Ptool

    Record music onto track 1 (monitor button ON in track 2)
    Then select Record for track 3 - hit record up top and the music from track 1 will record into track 3 (if you look at this music in Staff tool it will look whackey).
    To bounce to tracks Select the Kontakt synth output track and TRACK 3!
    NOT TRACK 1 or 2!
    When the bounce dialog comes up deselect fast bounce - and thats it....
    Should work fine - it has for me so far - if you need more configuration info like inputs/outputs for individual tracks let me know...I wish all this had been in a manual somewhere as I'm sure you do!
    All the best.....

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    @Billy Rubin said:

    Hi rogeriodec,
    Should work fine - it has for me so far - if you need more configuration info like inputs/outputs for individual tracks let me know...I wish all this had been in a manual somewhere as I'm sure you do!
    All the best.....


    Wow! It's a hard work, isn't?

    In the fact I would like to create a "fast bounce" but since it's not possible, I'm thinking if isn't better to do the following:

    1) Create an audio track
    2) Set my windows volume control to record "what I heard".
    4) Turn on the SOLO button on all the VSL Performance tracks
    3) Turn on the RECORD button on the audio track
    4) Start to record...

    Isn't it easier?

    What do you thing?

  • I'm not sure - I'd have to try this when I get home, does sound easier though......
    I know alot of people use VSL for professional work - but wow at this rate I wouldn't want to try to turn out a project in a few days!

  • I should mention...when I used fast bounce I was getting dropouts which may have nothing to do with sonar (or may) i don't know....I also have to use slow bounce with virtual grand piano. My sample library is on an external drive, maybe this is why i have to use slow bounce...don't know.
    Maybe you'll be able to use fast bounce with your system and the above configuration i gave in the earlier reply...

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    @Billy Rubin said:

    I should mention...when I used fast bounce I was getting dropouts which may have nothing to do with sonar (or may) i don't know....I also have to use slow bounce with virtual grand piano. My sample library is on an external drive, maybe this is why i have to use slow bounce...don't know.
    Maybe you'll be able to use fast bounce with your system and the above configuration i gave in the earlier reply...


    I think that you'll find that you can never use fast bounce no matter what your system.

    DG