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    @jbm said:

    I would be EXTREMELY interested in these!!! Are there any other instruments sampled in a similar fashion?


    Yes, there are mutiphonics available for all wind instrument. Most I own came on compact disks with special books written for the particular instrumentalist and for the contemporary composers.

    Of course not all possible multiphonics are recorded. For example on the Oboe alone are over thousand possibilities to blow several notes at once, of which I have only 390 different ones, but all nicely catalogued and notatated. An oboist would call those the most important multiphonics.

    If anybody else is EXTREMLY interested, I can post the most important info right here, or in a new thread. Infos like book titel, authors, ISBN numbers, websites of instrumentalist where you can order nouvelle techniques sounds etc.. just let me know. Otherwise I send you jbm a PM.

    Also, I don’t own this samples 100%, but bought them for using under licence, and the ones I recorded myself, the instrumentalists are the co-owners. So it would be no good idea just to make a copy of those huge library for any of you.

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    Others multiphonics are available online. For example here a Heckel-System Bassoon multiphonic site:

    Heckel-System Bassoon Multiphonic Fingerings_
    http://idrs.colorado.edu/bsnfing/fingmult.htm

    Indexes > Bb1-B1 > Heckel Multiphonic fingerings Bb1- B1:
    http://www.idrs.org/Pub/BsnMulti/BB1_B1MU.html

    Home.
    http://idrs.colorado.edu/bsnfing/finghome.htm

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    @Angelo Clematide said:


    If anybody else is EXTREMLY interested, I can post the most important info right here, or in a new thread. Infos like book titel, authors, ISBN numbers, websites of instrumentalist where you can order nouvelle techniques sounds etc.. just let me know.


    PLEASE do so! Maybe make a new thread.
    Yes, the Heckel bassoon site I already found. Thanks for the confirmation that I can get my bassoon material from there.

    Bests,
    - Mathis
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    "The really sad thing is that todays sample libraries don't have the content to do this..." - mathis

    Actually that's not true, as your own work proved with the time-stretched vibraphone.

    Also, on those pieces I mentioned, Ligetti used mainly normally played instruments, in unique combinations. Though I agree more samples of anything are always a good thing.


    Though again, oddly enough, when you start talking about using these specialized articulations - that is when I would want live, not sampled instruments. To totally contradict everything I just said. Whoops. I always do that...
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    @mathis said:

    PLEASE do so! Maybe make a new thread.


    Okay, give me a few days for the whole compiling the info, so around middle next week, first have to mix one rock song tomorrow for a band from Long Island, they wait since a loooong time for that one on this Island...

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    Btw, this site has some really good quality, go to > Sounds with tag "multiphonics" I just don't know how to download them.

    http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/tagsViewSingle.php?id=2920

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    @mathis said:

    PLEASE do so! Maybe make a new thread.


    Okay, give me a few days for the whole compiling the info, so around middle next week, first have to mix one rock song tomorrow for a band from Long Island, they wait since a loooong time for that one on this Island...


    Brilliant, Angelo. I'm very much looking forward to it.

    cheers,

    J.
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    @William said:

    "The really sad thing is that todays sample libraries don't have the content to do this..." - mathis

    Actually that's not true, as your own work proved with the time-stretched vibraphone.


    No,sorry, but it's the other way round, the vibraphone is recorded by myself. No commercial samples involved here. In fact this kind of piece is not possible with sample libraries, because my electronic treatment works like a magnifying glass to the noises and imperfections of the playing, something that usually is edited out in a commercial library.
    I would never do this kind of piece with a sample library because the results would be terribly boring. The major and essential part of the creative process is the conceptualization and improvisation, the recording the material.

    For the ones not knowing what piece we are talking about:
    http://www.mathis-nitschke.com/mp3/TT_Vibraphon_part1.mp3">http://www.mathis-nitschke.com/mp3/TT_Vibraphon_part1.mp3
    http://www.mathis-nitschke.com/mp3/TT_Vibraphon_part3.mp3
    (especially part 3)
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