"the Vienna instruments run stable on both platforms, Mac and PC.
On a Slave Mac you use...."


I understand what you're saying, and I am aware that other plugs have problems with ProTools and RTAS (Ivory, for instance), so the blame can't be laid entirely on VSL, but I'm still irked. I've been running various Giga libraries on a 3.7 Ghertz PCthen other plugs through V-stack on the same PC. What I'd hoped to do was get everything back on one Mac. But from the input from others in this thread it's clear that this is only marginally possible and that's too bad. How well will V-Stack work with Vienna Instruments, do you know?

I'm using Ivory with Protools and RTAS and never had a single problem with it fyi. [[;)]]

same here - ProTools TDM/Ivory RTAS, no problem

@charlzj said:

Thanks, Paul - I'm really a Mac guy, so I would probably lean towards that. Anybody out there feel like Forte (PC) is more adventageous than Plogue Bidule or RAX (Mac) as a host?

I will go hunt down info on the guys who use Mac Minis as slaves - I know that's a popular solution, but I don't know all the gory details as to what host they use, and how they route audio into their ProTools gear, and how they deal with digital sync...

BTW, I can't seem to get your forum search engine to work... Is there by any chance a compatibilty issue with Mac Safari?

I've been trying out all of them. Ploque seems to have bigger CPU hit (both mac and PC) than the others. It won't load as much as the others using ASIO. I've been trying to find a solution, although I haven't had much time to put into it. Also, I find that it's not the quickest navigation wise.

Forte seems to work ok on my PC's. I only have the demo version and it's seems a little unstable. It also cost more than the others. Between those two issues I haven't decided yet to plunk down to buy it.

I've been using RAX on my macbookpro, and it works fine. One thing I don't like about RAX is that you have click through two windows to open a VI. Also, I can't tell which VI is on which channel because unlike the others, there is no label on the VI window to tell you which one it is.

I've been using V-stack a lot lately, mostly because I seem to be able to navigate fastest on it over the others. But the downside is that it's older with no more updates for it. Too bad, because I like the layout. You can click open a VI in one click. If you have a bunch of VI open all over the place, I can quickly tell which one is on which channel.

One thing that I don't like is having to constantly shuffle windows around looking for various VI as I work. I use to keep a fixed set up, but I do so many different things everyday that I'm constantly having to change around VI from one day to another. If you don't change your loadup, it's probably not an issue.

@drpgleeson said:

"the Vienna instruments run stable on both platforms, Mac and PC.
On a Slave Mac you use...."


I understand what you're saying, and I am aware that other plugs have problems with ProTools and RTAS (Ivory, for instance), so the blame can't be laid entirely on VSL, but I'm still irked. I've been running various Giga libraries on a 3.7 Ghertz PCthen other plugs through V-stack on the same PC. What I'd hoped to do was get everything back on one Mac. But from the input from others in this thread it's clear that this is only marginally possible and that's too bad. How well will V-Stack work with Vienna Instruments, do you know?

I been using V-stack across 4 PC's every day as of late. I load them up with VSI (and some GVI on two machines). It works fine. Great as matter of fact. The only issue is that you can only seem to load 6 GVI (sometimes only 4) before it gives you a plugin error. And I'm not talking about sample load here, just instancing 6 GVI. So if you have a gigastudio set up with say 6 banks, it's hard to get the same result in V-stack using GVI.

As for VSI, I have had up to 13 VSI going with maxed ram at 2.6gig with no problem at all. I do it all the time.

One thing I haven't tried is running Gigastudio and V-stack with VSI at the same time.

I've been hearing a lot about the V-Stack. I have been using KORE, bought VST to RTAS wrapper (using PT) and have been frustrated with both of them. I miss the Giga versions, especially now that I purchased the Appassionata series. I am willing to use my older G5 as a slave. If anyone can please post a link or some tips as to how I can make it work with Steinberg's V-Stack, I surely will appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

@Another User said:

I have managed to run multiple instances in ReWire via Plogue Bidule. But it's a bit complicated, and somewhat buggy. If anyone is interested, I can post the exact procedure. Someone else had previously posted a how-to, but I found that I had to do it a little differently in order to make it work.

Hi plurye and charlzj,
I have PT HD3 on a Mac G5 dual 2.0MHz and I just bought PD (Plogue Bidule). What are the exact steps to get one VSL VI instance connected to PT? How about more than one? Also, what are the 'somewhat buggy' issues? I've put in a few hours on PD and was only successful in getting VSL VI to run standalone inside PD, but I'm at a loss lost trying to figure out how to connect it to PT.

Since the discussion is somewhat around an RTAS version of the Vienna Instruments, do you know if there's going to be a Sculpture version of the Vienna Library?

I mean, this could be the best solution for PT users, no?

Vincent

@vinco said:

Since the discussion is somewhat around an RTAS version of the Vienna Instruments, do you know if there's going to be a Sculpture version of the Vienna Library?

I mean, this could be the best solution for PT users, no?

Vincent

"Never say never", I know, but this is very, very unlikely. Sculpture doesn't offer certain features which are crucial for our concepts. The VSL has developed the Vienna Intruments - our own, highly spezialized player - mainly with the goal in mind to be _not_ too dependent on 3rd-party products.

Hi Dietz,

thanks for letting me know.

This is really interesting because I've heard at Namm the Digidesign saying that they were working with the Vienna staff to make it happen.

I was really surprised by this since they also partnered with one of your competitor, the Easwest company.

It makes more sense to stay away from a 3rd party solution. I totally agree with this.

However, I understand the frustration of PT users (I am one of them).
I have a second computer so this is not a real problem for me and I'd add that most of PT users who own a TDM solution probably have multiple computers also.

But we're not far from being able to get enough juice from one computer to run the Vienna Instruments + PT.

It'd make a lot of sense for people (like me) that travel a lot and that need a somewhat portable rig with only one computer.

I just hope the Vienna team will not forget the RTAS support or find an alternative to make it work reliably.

Vincent

@Another User said:

However, I understand the frustration of PT users (I am one of them). [...]
Vincent

Rest assured that the frustration was big on _our_ side, too, when our developers found out that there seems to be no way to get the same performance from RTAS-based systems as we get from VST/AU. - But no, we won't forget this format [:)]

All the best,

Just got Pro Tools, very excited about it after seeing some of the features.

Live 6 now works as a host over ReWire. I'm going to try it with PT next time I get a chance. It's expensive if you only use it as a host, but of course it's a great program as well (and I say that as someone who's not really very interested in loops).

So maybe this is the way to use VSL with Pro Tools.

It turns out I was wrong - Live 6 only hosts its own V.I.s over ReWire. FL Studio apprarently does, though.