Here is an audio example using ONLY a FF sustain layer Trumpet..

Honest [;)]

http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=svonkampen&templatefn=FileSharing1.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.1.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en

click on "Trumpet"

SvK

Your link seems to lead to a .nki file, whatever this is.

DG

Click on:

Trumpet_Example.mp3


(fifth one down)


Brass_Filtering is the Kontakt NKI. instrument...just drop your zones/samples into the existing group.

SvK

It sounds very good. I'm not sure that it is any better than the current VI controls, but it sure seems to work work well for your system. However, I can imagine that it would be useful with solo instruments, as it might help to get round the phasing effect of velocity xfade, so I'll test it out when I have more time.

DG

DG.....absolutely!


It totally gets around the chorusing of solo-instruments!


I really think that using this technique in future VI instead of a low pass would be really great


Since when wind and brass players play softly the "breath sound" is still very present even though the sound becomes more muted...my technique retains this quality..it sounds way more natural....

SvK

With solo instruments.......

You could still have layers (pp, p, mf, f, ff) and INSTEAD of velocity cossfading ...it's a hard switch ....with each layer still using my technique, with varying degrees of dynamic EQ cut per layer.

SvK

Just open Kontakt and take a gander as to what I did.......Drop some FF samples into the existing Group.


all the best,

SvK

I really think that it is great that users are coming up with all these suggestions for improvements. There are so many possibilities and I think that these technical issues are what sample libraries are going to have to deal with in the future.

Regarding opening K2, I'm really not prepared to ruin my day at this time in the morning. Maybe later in the week when I'm in a good mood........ [:D]

DG

Yes, I agree that VSL should investigate incorporating a more sophisticated controllable filtering system. The lowpass works quite well on brass already but I can see that your method would be an improvement on this. In some ways I find that filtering is a smoother more satisfying solution than the current sample morphing technologies.

It would be really great if presets could be designed for each instrument to best replicate the EQ profile of the instrument's pp, p.mp, and mf velocity layers. And then morph between the EQ settings instead of morphing the actual samples themselves.

Best,
Jay

@svonkampen said:

Just open Kontakt and take a gander as to what I did.......Drop some FF samples into the existing Group.


all the best,

SvK

Wow!! Sounds amazing!! I'm going to have to try this ASAP.

I was wondering though, why did you choose to do this in Kontakt instead of EXS? I thought you used logic/EXS for most of your composition work, right?

JT3...


You can't do this with the exs24....since it only has lowpass, highpass, and bandpass filters.....

KONTAKT is amazing..............

ps: I use Vienna, Kontakt, and some EXS24 instances (only for the Old VSL perf-leg stuff from Opus1)

All other VSL stuff gets imported to KONTAKT for treatments listed above.


All the best, and thanx for props.

SvK