Svon,
How do you have midi set up?
I'm asking this because if the midi request is too slow, I'm wondering if the clicks and pops are a result of slow request, and not a buffer setting, or sync problem. (I noted you'd had success with the rme cards syncing.) I've read elsewhere that plogue isn't always 'friendly'.

I know this sounds strange, but I've heard stranger.
Just trying to cover angles.

Have you considered running midi through ethernet, with a switch?
(Or fx-teleport, or the VNC already built into Tiger?)

Good Luck to you and Timkiel, i hope you get it sorted out,

Alex.

Same problem here. Sometimes holding a simple patch on a slave computer (in OS X) will create random pops and clicks. And some other time it's fine...

Jerome

Has there been any progress at solving this issue?

For the record, I USED to have a PC slave running Giga and the old VSL library, triggered by my host G5 running Pro Tools.

I OFTEN had clicks and pops, ESPECIALLY when using brass...say....three horn notes and three trombone notes sounding together. LOTS of clicks and pops on sustained chords. That was on a very fast PC too....don't know if this is relevant...just thought I'd chime in...

Tom

Any updated from the VSL team on this? I'm getting my MacPro tomorrow and would love to be able to move to an all OSX implementation rather than running WinXP on my MacMini slaves.

Cheers

Tim

Hi,

there is already a revised version online in our download area (Vienna Instruments Software Installer OS X Intel 1.07 - public beta) where the mentioned problems should not occur anymore.

Please find it here:

http://www.vsl.co.at/en-us/68/375/239.vsl

Best,

M a y a

Thanks Maya - will check it out as soon as I can.

Hi Maya,

you say

'there is already a revised version online in our download area (Vienna Instruments Software Installer OS X Intel 1.07 - public beta) where the mentioned problems should not occur anymore.'

What about us not on Intel macs yet? I'm trying to set up a slave G4 Powerbook (2gig RAM) using Plogue Bidule on OS 10.4.7. I've got 6 instances of VI running as a slave from G5 & Logic Pro by Midi over LAN. It's just unusable. The pops/clicks/glitches are constant. But i've got the VI Cube and it's too big/hungry to run on 1 G5. How do i configure multiple Macs if this set-up doesn't work?

Mark Russell

Is everyone who is slaving a Mac of any kind having this problem?

Tom

Are the pops/clicks present when the VI GUI is closed ?

Also, can it be possible that there is a sync issue here? Are the slave Macs being clocked with word clock or some kind of house sync?

TH

If i substitute VI GUI with Kontakt or Elektrik Piano in Plogue Bidule i don't get clicks/pops. My tech guru assures me there's no wordclock problem so i can only assume it's something to do with the Vienna Instruments Plug In. Any Ideas?

Many Thanks,

Mark

Mark, did you try to close the Vi Gui ?

Perhaps it seems a stupid test, but I noticed this problem on several Pc.
http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=8928

Stephane,

the VI Gui is closed. And it clicks/pops whether i've got 1 VI loaded or 7 VI's. And i always keep them closed once i've loaded up the patch/matrix.

Maybe it'd s plogue bidule thing but, as i already mentioned, Kontakt/Elektrik Piano and other plug-ins seem to work fine.

Thanks for help.

Mark

I was just thinking of getting PBiddle... I intend to run VI on my existing G5 Dual 2G and Pro Tools on the new Mac Intel. So maybe it's not a great idea....I wonder if this happens on any other hosts?

The problem with RAX as far as I can tell is that you only have a 2 channel mixer, I don't see a way to get VI's out in pairs over lightpipe to a second computer..

Tom

Hi, same problems here,

I figured it´s a Plouge problem:
I think it´s a buffer issue. you can set plogue only to 512.
When I tried Logic Express as a host- here you can set the buffer to 1024 -no pops.
Only problem here- I can only adress 16 Midi channels in LE´s enviroment.
Rax seemed nice- but only stereo out- useless for me.
V-Stack doesnt work with 48khz on a mac.

So I havent found a working slave-host yet.
Any hope for us ?

Best

Oliver

@oliverheuss said:

Hi, same problems here,

I figured it´s a Plouge problem:
I think it´s a buffer issue. you can set plogue only to 512.
When I tried Logic Express as a host- here you can set the buffer to 1024 -no pops.
Only problem here- I can only adress 16 Midi channels in LE´s enviroment.
Rax seemed nice- but only stereo out- useless for me.
V-Stack doesnt work with 48khz on a mac.

So I havent found a working slave-host yet.
Any hope for us ?

Best

Oliver

Looks like V STack then for me, I work at 44.1 ....

Interesting though, I am using Nuendo on the Mac with a 512 buffer and have no clicking problems at all. Is it ONLY when used as a slave?

Tom

@oliverheuss said:

Hi, same problems here,

I figured it´s a Plouge problem:
I think it´s a buffer issue. you can set plogue only to 512.
When I tried Logic Express as a host- here you can set the buffer to 1024 -no pops.
Only problem here- I can only adress 16 Midi channels in LE´s enviroment.
Rax seemed nice- but only stereo out- useless for me.
V-Stack doesnt work with 48khz on a mac.

So I havent found a working slave-host yet.
Any hope for us ?

Best

Oliver

Oliver, I'm not sure i understand your limitations in Logic Express.

Can't you set up Multi instruments in the environment, and route each instrument (even with it's own multiple M cha.) to a different multi instrument, if necessary?

I have 5 to play back a large orchestral, multi articulation, soundfont i use for sketching, and that 'plays' from an external SF player called simple synth.

5 times 16 = 80 potential instruments, and that's just for starters. At times i add a sixth, so i'm near a hundred tracks, and can access all instruments.

I don't know if this will help.

Good Luck,

Alex.

(Travelling and studying in Russia, with a g4 laptop, and parchment and clutch pencil at hand....)

I will admit here, i'm fairly new to Logic, and am certainly not an expert.

GUYS....

The Clicking discussed on this page applies ONLY to this:

G5's........running a slave host. (no buffering, tweaking in Bidule or RAX etc will cure this)


MAC INTEL Slaves running the new software from Vienna DO NOT click and pop anymore.

SvK

So...

In order to run MAC slaves they HAVE to be Intel Based (mac-mini's work great) AND with latest BETA software from Vienna.

MAC G5 WILL NOT WORK as slaves but DO function fine as Main DAWs.

SvK