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  • Solo string parts in unison problem

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    In the case of 2 or 3 solo string parts playing in unison and in a fast movement how can I avoid getting that annoying sound, not sure how to describe it though, but it's not the natural timbre of the instrument anymore...Phase problem or something...? And why doesn't this happen with live instruments? Or does it?
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    @Guy said:

    In the case of 2 or 3 solo string parts playing in unison and in a fast movement how can I avoid getting that annoying sound, not sure how to describe it though, but it's not the natural timbre of the instrument anymore...Phase problem or something...? And why doesn't this happen with live instruments? Or does it?

    Is it the same solo instrument? If so then you are getting phasing because the same samples are playing against each other. In the "real" world nobody is playing on the same instrument so it doesn't happen. FWIW I did an overdub session where the cellist was multitracking and was so accurate he was seriously phasing with himself.......!

    DG
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    @Guy said:

    In the case of 2 or 3 solo string parts playing in unison and in a fast movement how can I avoid getting that annoying sound, not sure how to describe it though, but it's not the natural timbre of the instrument anymore...Phase problem or something...? And why doesn't this happen with live instruments? Or does it?

    Is it the same solo instrument? If so then you are getting phasing because the same samples are playing against each other. In the "real" world nobody is playing on the same instrument so it doesn't happen. FWIW I did an overdub session where the cellist was multitracking and was so accurate he was seriously phasing with himself.......!

    DG

    wow [:D]
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    Ok, that would make sense, thanks DG. Yes, they are the same solo violin parts. But is there any way around that? Tricks? VI only has one fast leg perf sample for solo violin, so I must deal with that, and that's the sound I want.
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    Try to use the fast perf-leg for one line and the perf-trill for a second one.
    Maybe this works for you.

    best
    Herb
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    @herb said:

    Try to use the fast perf-leg for one line and the perf-trill for a second one.
    Maybe this works for you.

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    Herb


    Brilliant herb, that worked beautifully! Thanks. [:D]
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    Ah, that perf trille, I love it !

    2 instruments phasing is a quite common case, in a string quartet, if the 2 violin play the same note, they often phase, because they are playing the same vibrato…but hey, that's a living sound and it ( the vibrato) change in time and space. it's more human than playing with the 2 same VI solo violin…
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    You an always use the pitch wheel to transpose the part down and/or up a tone and transpose the part in the notation to play the unison. That way you are not triggering the same sample and you don't get phasing. Jay Bacal is the one who suggested this and it works wonderfully. You can have 3 parts playing the same note without triggering th same sample.
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    An excellent idea!! [:P]

    Mahlon
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    Just make sure you transpose a whole step if you are using performance legato instruments as they are not sampled chromatically.

    --Jay
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    Yes, I noticed, when I tried a semi-tone (I was curious) it didn't work.
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    @mattdean said:

    You an always use the pitch wheel to transpose the part down and/or up a tone and transpose the part in the notation to play the unison. That way you are not triggering the same sample and you don't get phasing. Jay Bacal is the one who suggested this and it works wonderfully. You can have 3 parts playing the same note without triggering th same sample.


    Really? That's cool! Thanks! [:D]