Thanks again SvK,
1. Where are the samples actually stored in the host G5 or the node G5 or both?

2. When the program actually calculates the sound, does it import sample data and then export the actual digital representation of the sound or what?

3. What does the Plogue Bidule actually do in this network?

4. If this is a network, why wouldn't a Xserver work as well?

Regards,

Stephen W. Beatty

Stephen,

each G5 needs a dedicated drive for the Vis....

You also need to make sure that you buy an additional VI dongle for EACh G5 (they are 23$ each)

So my main G5 has a VI dongle For Strings I

My 2nd G5 has a dongle for Strings II

Plogue Bidule is only used on Slave G5 as a "host" for the Strings II Au VIs

SvK

@svonkampen said:

Oliver...


yeaahhh let me know ;_0

biss spaeter alter.....trink ein Koelsch fur mich.

SvK

Hi SvK,

I checked out Plogue Bidule again, but I still have problems with dropouts and bad audioquality, even on biggest buffer size.
How many plug-ins can you open in PB? When I load several (7) Plug-Ins PB seems not to be able to process all audio in time. On repeated notes I get bad audio.
Anyone else with good or bad experience with Plogue?
It seems to be a promising host, but is it capable of processing data when adressed on multiple Midi-Ports with Multiple Plugins? (G5 2.0 Ghz DP)
What are your limits?

And BTW: How comes you speak Koelsch?


Best Oliver

@svonkampen said:

Oliver...


yeaahhh let me know ;_0

biss spaeter alter.....trink ein Koelsch fur mich.

SvK

Hi SvK,

I checked out Plogue Bidule again, but I still have problems with dropouts and bad audioquality, even on biggest buffer size.
How many plug-ins can you open in PB? When I load several (7) Plug-Ins PB seems not to be able to process all audio in time. On repeated notes I get bad audio.
Anyone else with good or bad experience with Plogue?
It seems to be a promising host, but is it capable of processing data when adressed on multiple Midi-Ports with Multiple Plugins? (G5 2.0 Ghz DP)
What are your limits?

And BTW: How comes you speak Koelsch?


Best Oliver

Oliver ....16 custom VIs....

RAM total for VIs is 1.59 gig....

Regarding latency: Plogue set to 512 buffer, so is Logic on Main Machine......which means Plogue VIs arrive at 1024 (512 X 2) .....

I'm running ONLY VIs on Plogue (Slave) Celli & Basses

All is well

SvK

Oliver

you are probably just overloading VSL-server tooooo much (too much RAM)

that is why I made all custom presets, eliminating cells that are not needed.....

OHHHH almost forgot .......leaving Release Samples switched on WILL give you massive drop-outs everywhere....

System just can't handle it.......


SvK

Oliver repeated Notes problem

is DEFINITELY....release samples.......turn off

SvK

Dear SvK,

Release Samples is a good point, I´ll try that.
In my test setup I had also other Plugs running, like atmosphere, East West, Real guitar etc. But if Plogue is overloaded with the release Samples already (no other plugs,even though I have 7 GB on my G5) then it seems to be a pretty limited system!
Have you or anyone else reading this tried V-Stack? Is it probably capable of processing more Plugs? No dropouts?

Best Koelsch from Oliver

Oliver.....I sent you a PM

SvK

I run three G5's : a Quad 2.5 as master, and DP's 2.5 and 2.0 as slaves,along with a P4 PC, running GS 2.5. All the slaves are fitted with Hammerfalls, which are connected to the Quad's 3 MOTU 2408 Mk 3's and a 24 i/o. I have V-Stack running on the DP 2.0,and although it's a bit cranky under Tiger (crashes without fail whenever i quit it) it performs very well, generally. It is simplicity itself to use. The Quad has 8 GB RAM, whilst the other two G5's have 4. The PC, 1.5.

I've just bought Kore for the DP 2.5, and that's great,despite there being a few bugs, which I guess are to be expected. I've not bothered with MIDI hardware on the DP 2.5 (I do not want another bank of AMT's!),so I've been setting up MIDI over LAN, using the Mac's own AMS. It works very well and, in principal, can yield as many ports as I'll ever need, for no extra outlay. i'm very pleased with this: it seems rock solid, after my initial familiarisation with it.

V-Stack is fantastic value for money: never experienced any dropouts, and the interface is excellent; but I would seriously look at Kore. There have been a few dissatisfied users on the NI forum, but I notice that they're overwhelmingly PC users. [:D]

Thanks strawinsky for your input,

this is valuable Information for me, since I plan to upgrade my DP 2.0 to about the same setup that you run.
Good to know that the Motu Stuff runs solid!?
One more Q:
Have you ever mixed plugs in V-Stack or ist ist all VI you run there?
Have you experiened any limits or could you load all 16 Ports.

Best
Oliver

No problem Oliver. I'm very happy with the MOTU's,though I clock the whole system to an Apogee Big Ben, which really makes a difference to the sound believe me.

The only difference I've noticed between the pci-e and pci-x version of MOTU, is that frequently, upon start up, the MOTU's do not pick up the clocking and remain in flashing sync-waiting mode. i don't know why this should be. It's fixed by simply turning them off and on again, then reloading the pci configuration I saved for the system. Other than that the whole thing runs very well, and I'm very encouraged by Apple's AMS.

Sorry, what is Apple's AMS?

Which Hammerfalls do you use on the slaves?

SvK

Hi, Steve/ Oliver. Sorry I've not got back before: been away. I used the HDSP 9652's. Really great value for money: precision engineering and power. Very, very stable and impressive.

AMS is Apple's Audio MIDI Setup. That's where one can configure the Audio and MIDI(funnily enough), and do lots of cool and powerful things with your setup.

BTW: thanks for unseflfishly sharing your expertise with us, Steve.

Strawinsky,

thanx, AND, you're welcome [;)]

SvK

Strawinsky,

the same to you:

thanks for unseflfishly sharing your expertise with us, Strwinsky.[/quote]

(I bought the Motu gear yesterday an hopefully it´ll run smooth when I Install it next week) I hope my MAckie D8B clock "sounds" nearly as good as the "big ben"...)

Best

Oliver

Strawinsky

regarding AMS

it seems that Ethernet MIDI works quite well....however everymorning when I get to the recording studio it seems that I have to "reconnect" all computers via the ehternet-midi tab in audio/midi setup.......

and with 3 or more computers this becomes a royal pain.......

Have you found a way around this?

SvK

As yet, no, Steve. I'm in the early stages of this method of working. Initially, I found the AMS to be very unstable indeed. Logic kept crashing, as did other apps (K2, Kore,etc) on the slaves. But that seemd to "settle down", probably due to the order in which things were launched and/or connected, or perhaps even the my configuration of things,because I have since wiped the network configs. and built the whole thing again, with good results.

But I'll be the first to admit, I'm not a techie, and not very methodical when it comes to this. However, everything is now fine. The great thing is that when AMS is launched it remembers your network configuration.

I've not put the PC into the chain: I'm quite uncomfortable with them, and it serves a relatively minor role in the system now. When I get hold of the VI library, it'll be strictly Mac- based, although I'm very interested in Tascam's new GVI.


I see that you've posted this on Apple's Logic forum: I'll keep checking on that. Ethernet MIDI is really very good, I think: very fast, and superior to its "hardware" counterpart.

Let me know how you get on with your set up. Thanks.

Strawinsky,

Thanx.

SvK