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  • How well does the VI Player work with pre-made MIDI Files?

    I've finally downloaded all the demo videos of the VI Player and yep... I want it too. But uh, everything there seems to be geared toward people who are going to be doing live performances. Everything is done live from a MIDI Keyboard. True this is awsome for them, but what about those people with pre-made midi files. I can not find 1 tutorial/video of the VI Player working with a sequencer.

    So, my questions:

    1) Will the VI Player's universal mode work with a pre-recorded MIDI track? So I just play the midi track and it does the automatic cell changing?

    2) Can I use a midi controler event to change horiz. vertical. cells myself
    IE. Say I have a simple 1/4 note scale violin solo ascending cresc. legato and the Descent ff 1/16 note staccato with the final two notes marcato. Can I setup 3 horizontal cells (legato,staccato,marcato) in the VI Player, assign a midi controler in the VI Player to change horizontal cells and then insert the midi event in my Sequencer in the correct places to switch styles.

    3) I know the VI Player standalone will not allow you to open multiple instances but will it have native support for multiple instances within a sequencer? So on a good machine I could have 4 instances Violin,Viola,Cello,Doublebass in my sequencer together.

    I've heard some about VSTi... but I'm still researching what VST is in the first place... and have no clue what VSTi is either [:D] Trying to sort through posts on the matter.

    4) Can you run universal mode together with custom cells without them interfering with each other. Example, say you load the Violin universal performance patch. VI starts playing a midi track adjusting which cell is active (assuming the answer to my first question is yes). Now it gets to a passage where, on the score, you have two 1/4 notes played slured legato and two 1/4 notes played portemento. Midi wise, the notes are all the same length so the VI Player can't know to play the two portemento. (now my question)

    Can I use a midi controler event to "exit" universal mode and jump to the cell with the solo violin portemento followed by another midi event to re-enter the universal cells?


    Well... that'll do for now. The more I think about it and read the more questions I'll come up with. So thanks for all the help [:)]


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    5) When you optimize RAM usage in the VI Player, is there a way to save the results? So I can close the program, re-open to listen to the same track again with optimized RAM or will I have to re-optimize each time I open the VI player?

  • 1) 1) Will the VI Player's universal mode work with a pre-recorded MIDI track? So I just play the midi track and it does the automatic cell changing?

    Generally the Vi does not know/care if it gets the midi input from a keyboard directly or a sequenzer/notation programm, so there should not be any difference.

    2) Can I use a midi controler event to change horiz. vertical. cells myself
    IE.

    Yes, you can assign any controller of your choice

    3) I know the VI Player standalone will not allow you to open multiple instances but will it have native support for multiple instances within a sequencer? So on a good machine I could have 4 instances Violin,Viola,Cello,Doublebass in my sequencer together.

    You can run multiple instances on your sequenzer.
    I just made some tests on my sequenzer computer, and I could perform with 24 different instances/instruments without any problems.

    I think VSTi means VST Instrument.

    4) Can you run universal mode together with custom cells without them interfering with each other.

    Yes, you have the option to load 12 different matrixfiles, the Universal mode is one matrixfile. That means you can setup another 11 individual matrixfiles, and each matrixfile can hold a maximum of 144 different patches.

    best
    Herb

  • Yay! Thanks for the reply Herb.

    I'm brand new to this whole thing but it sounds like the SC will work great with my setup. And I don't have to buy Gigastudio! Yay! [:)]

    But you could at least tell me "no" on something! All these "Yes" answers are making me want it more... and More... and MORE... grr...running out of reasons not to get the SC. [:D]

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    @herb said:

    3) I know the VI Player standalone will not allow you to open multiple instances but will it have native support for multiple instances within a sequencer? So on a good machine I could have 4 instances Violin,Viola,Cello,Doublebass in my sequencer together.

    You can run multiple instances on your sequenzer.
    I just made some tests on my sequenzer computer, and I could perform with 24 different instances/instruments without any problems.
    best
    Herb


    Herb, this question may have been asked before, but what is the system you speak of which runs 24 instances of VI?

    How many sounds have you had loaded into each instance?

    What is the CPU, CPU speed, RAM quantity, OS?

    Are you running your sequencer on a separate networked computer?

    I am concerned that my G5 2.5 dual (assuming 8GB RAM) will fall quickly behind Apple's quads and Intel machines in terms of what it will be capable of accomplishing. I know that getting another high-end Mac cannot happen any time soon for me.

    24 instances with VI sounds as if it can more accurately represent 24 staves of a full score than with PE. Many of the scores I work with are larger, so it seems that it will still be necessary to freeze or run tracks out as audio. If my machine falls too far behind the curve, it's likely that I should expect to have fewer than 24 instances on my system.

    I just want the most realistic view of what to expect from VI.

    Thanks,
    JWL

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    @Another User said:

    Herb wrote: You can run multiple instances on your sequenzer.
    I just made some tests on my sequenzer computer, and I could perform with 24 different instances/instruments without any problems.


    What are the specifications of that computer?