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  • Will VSL expand to a jazz library

    Hi,


    I thought i'd write to enquire if anyone knew any inside information as to whether VSL will ever expand there library in the future to a more jazz styled package? I'm currently looking for a jazz sample library of the same quality as VSL but can't find anything. Does anyone know if this might be likely in the future or if not is there a library on the market today more suited to jazz, I'm after bigband style brass, full of "pows" and "swells" and "punches" and "falls". I know there are some sample libraries out there but they seem to contain only sampled riffs on an audio cd, i could ideally do with giga format.


    cheers. [:D]

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    @princey said:

    Hi,


    I thought i'd write to enquire if anyone knew any inside information as to whether VSL will ever expand there library in the future to a more jazz styled package? I'm currently looking for a jazz sample library of the same quality as VSL but can't find anything. Does anyone know if this might be likely in the future or if not is there a library on the market today more suited to jazz, I'm after bigband style brass, full of "pows" and "swells" and "punches" and "falls". I know there are some sample libraries out there but they seem to contain only sampled riffs on an audio cd, i could ideally do with giga format.


    cheers. [:D]


    I have no information about VSL on this matter, but Garritan has just brought out a Jazz and Big Band sample library. I doubt that it is Giga though.

    DG

  • Personaly I hope they expand elsewhere - like choir and etnic instruments.

  • They are from Vienna, Austria. That's why their next VST Instrument will be an emulation of Falco vocals. [:)]
    We can expect a great VST tool and only experts and VSL users will be able to hear that it's not the real Falco.

    tele

  • thanks DG, i've heard about the garritan sample library and will research a bit more on it i think, I guess it comes with a dedicated kontakt based sample player so would be fine in cubase sx. I just think it should be a natural branch off for VSL as they seem to be the top dogs at doing orchestral libraries, why not coin in on that market aswell? [8-)]

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    @princey said:

    thanks DG, i've heard about the garritan sample library and will research a bit more on it i think, I guess it comes with a dedicated kontakt based sample player so would be fine in cubase sx. I just think it should be a natural branch off for VSL as they seem to be the top dogs at doing orchestral libraries, why not coin in on that market aswell? [8-)]


    Give them time [:D]

    DG

  • just listened to the garritan demos........ I know it can get better than that! come on VSL make my dream come true! [:D] After all how much jazz do you hear in advertising these days....lots!

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    @princey said:

    just listened to the garritan demos........ I know it can get better than that!...


    i think everything could get better than this [:)] check up chris hein horns...
    i know bigband is a pretty heavy and hard thing to do but i would prefer the chris hein horns rather than the garritan big band sh...stuff..

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    @princey said:

    just listened to the garritan demos........ I know it can get better than that!


    Jazz expression is extremely difficult to do with samples. There's a huge amount of permutation of the tone character as the performer plays. Maybe someone will do it some day, but I've yet to hear it. I don't think any of the current playback software (including the new VSL VI) is up to the task. I bought the Garritan library, and it's a nice tool for mock-ups.

    At this point in time, though, decent jazz requires live players.

    Lee Blaske

  • cheers guys for your advice,

    i checked out "chris hein horns", sounds pretty good, although i would prefer an all in one library with jazz drumkit and brush kit aswell as decent upright bass e.t.c nevertheless it might be worth investing in that for the meantime. I have got some jazz brass samples on a yamaha a4000 sample cd rom but the loading times to play these are unbearable and they don't sound that great either. Still, i am a patient guy and will continue to go about it another way - trying to find decent players on this tiny island that i live is pretty difficult though [:)] [/quote]

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    @princey said:

    trying to find decent players on this tiny island that i live is pretty difficult though


    If you live on a tiny island, there's probably not much to do, so you've got lots of time on your hands. You might want to try the solution that a good friend of mine, who started out as a trumpet player used. Years ago, he started playing guitar, and added that to his arsenal. A couple of years ago, he decided he was going to learn to play ALL the instruments in a big band, so he could overdub himself as the entire band. I thought it was an amusing idea, but he's now doing it, and it's starting to sound really good. In another year or two, he's going to have it nailed.

    All it takes is eBay, and a LOT of practice. [:D]

    Lee Blaske

  • Yeah, that's it, learn to play all the instruments in the band yourself!


    For a more realistic solution, you apparently have a computer, why not seek out great players anywhere in the world and upload tracks to them to overdub? You implied that you would hire locals if there were any...nowadays, everyone is local....
    Just a thought.

    Tom

  • Tom,

    That's an excellent,timely,and hugely profound statement. There's nothing wrong with realising orchestral music in the privacy of our own homes but adding the social element, the magic, the vibe, that happens between people will always remain an ingrediant to music making.

    Got to say I have had great contact with musicians over the net, as many of you must have had. I think it would be wonderful to humanize our samples with the addition of real performances. I know from some visual art experience that a stroke can change the backround and create a larger whole.

    Perhaps we can set something up through this forum?

    For instance I play classical and jazz guitar, some oud, some quattro and I'd be willing to play on some tracks.

    Robert