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    Can anyone explain how the new VI may or maynot work with Sibelius?
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    I am also quite interested in the interaction of Finale with VI. Any comments from the VSL team would be appreciated.

    All of this looks amazing! Thank you!!

    Michael Matthews
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    You'd probably have to host it externally in a VST host, and use midi routers to access the VI.

    Finale only loads Kontakt instrumens. Period. And I think this extends to Sibelius in that it only loads its own player.
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    @Joseph Burrell said:

    You'd probably have to host it externally in a VST host, and use midi routers to access the VI.

    Finale only loads Kontakt instrumens. Period. And I think this extends to Sibelius in that it only loads its own player.


    Surely if it runs as a standalone, you wouldn't need the VST host, just virtual MIDI cables?

    DG
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    ASIO applications usually grab the ASIO driver, meaning you can only load one instance of the Virtual Instrument at a time. It seems to me, that you can only have one instrument per Vienna Instrument, since I haven't seen anything about it being multi-timbral (meaning more than one midi channel per instance.)
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    So say I've got a symphony in sibelius

    I'll be able to load up a VI with all the say 1st violin patches and samples I'm gonna need then route sibelius through the VI into a sequencer.

    Then find a way of triggering all the controls in the VI from Sibelius with midi commands and then simply set Sibelius to play the 1st violin line thru the VI recorded into Sonar.

    and then do the same with every other part/stave in Sibelius one at a time.

    So the two difficulties are going to be a) routing Sibelius thru the VI into Sonar and b) triggering all the controls in the VI with midi commands written into the sibelius score. I know there are plugins for that now and presumably similar plugins can be created for the new VI.

    I'm sure I haven't thought thru half the issues on this yet anyone got any ideas on that.
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    Here's where you'll run into issue...

    Each Virtual Midi Cable (capable of 16 midi channels) will be limited to being routed to one instance of the VI, so you'll only be able to have 4 Vienna Instruments working that way. A full VST host will be necessary to use this program, as far as I'm understanding it. And based on what I'm seeing so far, one Vienna Instrument = one instrument. Not nearly enough if you're not working in a full VST hosting environment.

    You see, you can't have virtual midi cables connected to multiple instances of a VST as the midi data is usually sent 'OMNI' meaning your notes will get messed up across instances. My experience shows me that a virtual midi cable (maple) cannot be split across multiple VST's. Its just not possible (in my testing so far.)

    Someone may prove me wrong, but that's my understanding of the limitations of virtual midi cables at present and its something I've encounted many times, across various programs when trying it.