Igrohn

I think the VSL team are on top of this issue, for it is by far the utilization of the 64 bit processor that currently no one is daring to speak of. And VSL has accomodated their version of the new player interface thats yet to be had. Which will in effect provide more for articulation and playing enhancment, and or questions. Of-course that speaks for all music not just string quartets. I'm in the process of taking the current samples through a sensitive mozartariun style. I find that the sensitivity lies in the programs in which you use just as much as the samples that one chooses. Of-course VSL has the market on that issue. One would be surprised also on how a good written piece of music can contributes to the realism factor.

writing and recording sensitive string music in a chaotic, husle bustle pace of a no time instant modern world is very challenging. Its much easier for string players to play notes off a piece of paper. But, if its accomplished, however long it takes, there are rewards, I would imagine.


Best regards
towards your scientific research

@R.K. said:

And VSL has accomodated their version of the new player interface thats yet to be had. Which will in effect provide more for articulation and playing enhancment, and or questions. Of-course that speaks for all music not just string quartets.

I am sure that VSL will do their best on the top level of the art.

But my original claim was that it is not possible to choose e.g when the string instrument play cis or dis. It should be freely selectable for all notes. That is not possible at the moment for any system, not even for VSL. That is the main reason that software instruments can't emulate string quartet playing. Articulation and style matters are, of course, also important but that was not my point this time.

@lgrohn said:

......But my original claim was that it is not possible to choose e.g when the string instrument play cis or dis. It should be freely selectable for all notes. That is not possible at the moment for any system, not even for VSL.

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what are you talking about?

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It is utterly frustrating. That is exactly right. Now I see from what angle you are suggesting. Of-course playing out streight is not only not possible and true. But at my age also, its the same. That is why, if you really want to emulate music or come close enough, you have to use the score. There is no other way right now. But with all the woodwinds and Pro/ed etc. , you can paint with it. And that is completely new also, and exciting." In the next ten years ", the charts indicate a 100 year advancments, Quote : (" Ray kurtzweil " ).

Am I on the topic this time Igrohn ? or did i miss the point again.

Best

Hows it going angelo

Thierry.ecuvillon sounds like CPE's chello concerto. Sounds promising. he's on the right track.


R.k

@R.K. said:

Hows it going angelo
CPE's chello.
R.k

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Hi Robert...

Muck Finnesota vs. Fentucky yells Kuck... or what the hell are you guys talking about?

hehe

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HE HE , thats funny !!


I'm trying to get to Igrohn's point. He's been pushing this issue for a while now.
not sure if its clear yet. It does involve string quartets. Maybe I'll learn somthing.

I recently recorded a MIDI version of my string quartet, The Amazing X-Ray Machine using the new Solo Strings with VI interface. It's fantastic... I still have to learn how to squeeze even more expressiveness out of it.


Any comments would be appreciated. Here's the link:

http://garyeskow.com/audio%20/X-RAYPIZZ.aiff

I liked the piece but not all the sounds. In one place the vibrato of the solo violin was very unnatural. The worst sounds came from the low solo cello near the end. Of course, the main problem I wrote about above is not so bad when using quick tempos. But those long notes...

Thanks a lot for the quick reply! Do you think the problem with the violin lies in a poor choice by me? Is there something I could have done to avoid it?

agains, thanks much

Gary

@lgrohn said:

But my original claim was that it is not possible to choose e.g when the string instrument plays cis or dis. It should be freely selectable for all notes. That is not possible at the moment for any system, not even for VSL. That is the main reason that software instruments can't emulate string quartet playing. Articulation and style matters are, of course, also important but that was not my point this time.

Noticed my mistake. Should have been "cis od des" ...

please define "cis od dis." I don't know that term!

cis od des!

@lgrohn said:

But my original claim was that it is not possible to choose e.g when the string instrument plays cis or dis. It should be freely selectable for all notes. That is not possible at the moment for any system, not even for VSL. That is the main reason that software instruments can't emulate string quartet playing. Articulation and style matters are, of course, also important but that was not my point this time.

Noticed my mistake. Should have been "cis od des" ...

OK
C sharp or D flat

@lgrohn said:

OK
C sharp or D flat

Aha, Db the favorit key for tenor sax...

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Interpreting the discussion I must decide, that Software Instruments seem not to be on the level needed for presenting string quartets properly. Pity ...

Well of course.

The day that string samples or virtual instruments surpass the finest string quartets in the world will be a sad day indeed.

Get real.

Clark

Yes indeed. But at the moment software instruments can't properly even mock up string quartert because of the fatal flaw.

The real string quartets do a lot of work for dedicing when to e.g. C sharp or D flat etc.

You can't do freely the selection with the software instruments I know. There are microtunings etc. but they work only globally. In ideal case it should be possible to use sequencer's e.g. matrix representation for "tuning" string quartet sounds.

The day a calculator can play a string quartor, is the day I exchange my wife with a inflatable women!

Well, it's very early in the morning, I excuse myself in advance for that one...

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@Angelo Clematide said:

The day a calculator can play a string quartor, is the day I exchange my wife with a inflatable women!

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And I will do the other way round.