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  • Sibelius Dimension Strings I vs II

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    Starting a score I still use the "old" great sounding VIPRO-Dimension Strings (along all the Synchron strings ), using the studio-dimension-strings in Sibelius is still a puzzle for me,

    but my question is : there is an Sibelius-instrument choice between VSL Dimension Strings I and VSL Dimension Strings II.... (no III), as far as I am concerned I only need one of them ?? Is it maybe a relict from old bundle-names ?


  • Hello whbemmel_4785!

    I'm not sure if I understand your question.
    If you want to trigger Dimension Strings I, add [VSL Dimension Strings I] instruments in Sibelius and the "Dimension..." programs on the Manual Sound Sets page.
    If you want to trigger Dimension Strings II, add [VSL Dimension Strings II] instruments in Sibelius and the "Dimension... II" programs on the Manual Sound Sets page.
    If you want to trigger them both and switch between senza sordino and con sordino, you can do as described in the Sibelius Integration manual.
    https://www.vsl.co.at/tutorials/guides/sibelius-integration/general-optimization#con-sordino

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Hi Andy !

    I am using I + II + III (sul tasto) VIPRO without problems, switching through sib articulations works perfect, the studio version is not working nicely with Sibelius, but that's no problem for me ,

    it is just a bureaucratic little thing , using one staff with VSL Dim I - instrument works for all the 3 (normal, mute & tasto), so in my humble perception there is no need for a Dim II instrument in the Vianna House Style


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    Another thing,my pppp pizzicato's are almost as loud as ff (f.e. in the solo violin)

    Question : is it possible for me to make changes in the way the samples volume rects to different dynamic articulations ?

    I don't mean "in general" , but for every specific VSL instrument and then every specific sound ( Pizzi, stacc, sus etc etc)


  • The [VSL Dimension Strings II] instruments are for projects where you only want to trigger Dimension Strings II and not Dimension Strings I. So they are not redundant - especially for users that only have Dimension Strings II, but not Dimension Strings I.

    >> the studio version is not working nicely with Sibelius, but that's no problem for me

    => Studio Dimension Strings are working fine with Sibelius here. If you want us to take a look into your problem, please send a detailed description and screenshots to support@vsl.co.at.

    >> Another thing,my pppp pizzicato's are almost as loud as ff (f.e. in the solo violin)

    => Maybe you didn't load the correct preset. To be better able to look into this, please send the following screenshots to support@vsl.co.at.
    - Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments" menu
    - Sibelius mixer
    - Sibelius Playback Devices menu
    - Sibelius Manual Sound Sets page of all loaded devices
    - Vienna Ensemble showing one of the instruments that doesn't work correctly

    >> Question : is it possible for me to make changes in the way the samples volume rects to different dynamic articulations ?

    => With Vienna Instruments Pro you can extend the dynamic range of single slots under Advanced/Edit/Velocity Curve.
    https://www.vsl.co.at/manuals/vienna-instruments-pro/slot-rack#slot-editor-edit

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • @andi said:

    The [VSL Dimension Strings II] instruments are for projects where you only want to trigger Dimension Strings II and not Dimension Strings I. So they are not redundant - especially for users that only have Dimension Strings II, but not Dimension Strings I.


    >> the studio version is not working nicely with Sibelius, but that's no problem for me


    => Studio Dimension Strings are working fine with Sibelius here. If you want us to take a look into your problem, please send a detailed description and screenshots to support@vsl.co.at.


    >> Another thing,my pppp pizzicato's are almost as loud as ff (f.e. in the solo violin)


    => Maybe you didn't load the correct preset. To be better able to look into this, please send the following screenshots to support@vsl.co.at.
    - Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments" menu
    - Sibelius mixer
    - Sibelius Playback Devices menu
    - Sibelius Manual Sound Sets page of all loaded devices
    - Vienna Ensemble showing one of the instruments that doesn't work correctly


    >> Question : is it possible for me to make changes in the way the samples volume rects to different dynamic articulations ?


    => With Vienna Instruments Pro you can extend the dynamic range of single slots under Advanced/Edit/Velocity Curve.
    https://www.vsl.co.at/manuals/vienna-instruments-pro/slot-rack#slot-editor-edit


    Best regards,
    Andi

    Thanks ! A lot to do.....but in general it's going great here with new scores !


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    @andi said:
    Another thing,my pppp pizzicato's are almost as loud as ff (f.e. in the solo violin)

    => Maybe you didn't load the correct preset.

    Synchron Violin Solo : Pizzi/regular/agile are not responding to Vel-XF changes in VelFX sus MOD-preset, while they are in Velo-FX MOD- preset, while the manual pdf says " The "XF" and "XF sus" factory presets will work equally."

    that's what made me wondering


  • @andi said:
    => With Vienna Instruments Pro you can extend the dynamic range of single slots under Advanced/Edit/Velocity Curve

    Yes, that's nice working ! is that also possible in the synchro player ? I couldn't find it in the slot editor....


  • Pizzicatos, regular long notes and agile legatos all work fine with Synchron Solo Strings VelXF presets here. The dynamics respond correctly. If you want me to take a closer look at your problem, please send the following screenshots to support@vsl.co.at.
    - Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments" menu
    - Sibelius mixer
    - Sibelius Playback Devices menu
    - Sibelius Manual Sound Sets page of all loaded devices
    - Vienna Ensemble showing one of the instruments that doesn't work correctly

    With Synchron Player you can control the general dynamic range of your preset with the Dynamic Range fader. It's not possible to make individual dynamic range settings for every slot though.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks Andi, I will try all your suggestions. Meanwhile in different scores working, in Studio Solo Strings your pdf says program “solo violin 2” but probably it should be “ SydSoloViolin2” ?
    and while loading presets I can’t find a “ velocity basic merged B violin” …? Loading another A violin results in heavy movements in the expression fader, strange enough. But I am getting there !

    greetings from Amsterdam, Wouter


  • Hello Wouter!

    You are right about your remark for the program to choose for Studio Solo Violin 2. It is "SYzd Solo Violin 2". We will fix that in the manual.
    It's also true that there is no merged preset for Studio Solo Violin 2. You can either load the regular or the sordino preset. If you need to switch during the piece, I would load a second violin A instead.
    The movements of the expression fader point to using either the wrong Sibelius instrument or the wrong program on the Manual Sound Sets page. Using the same instrument twice in a configuration should be no problem.

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Concerning Studio Dim Strings , the PDF system says : " The "Compact" and "Full" presets will both work with the "VE Strings" sound set."

    Do you mean Velocity preset ? Or VelFX Sus / Velocity FX ?


  • For Studio Dimension Strings please use the Velocity presets.

    Best,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library