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  • New Lossless Libraries

    Hi VSl people,

    I got all the Lossless piano libraries downloaded and installed. Thanks. My question is: are you replacing all the Synchron and Synchron-ized libraries with the Lossless versions? It would make a huge difference on disk space! If this really happens I wont need to expand my SSD collection. Saves a lot of money! Who wouldn't like that?

    Best,

    Willem


  • Hello Willem!

    It's not decided yet if we do that with all our libraries. If we do, it will be over a longer period of time.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • @andi said:

    Hello Willem!


    It's not decided yet if we do that with all our libraries. If we do, it will be over a longer period of time.


    Best regards,
    Andi

    🤞you do decide to.


    Just a beginner
  • certainly the amount of disk space the Synchron libraries take up (partly also because you cannot freely choose the microphone positions to use like with OT's Sine) is one reason why I've yet to invest in the newer libraries. If at least the native Synchron libraries do become lossless compressed, it might well attract more sales.

    Incidentally, I assume that older pianos like my wonderful Vienna Imperial will not benefit from the treatment?


  • I hope you do move the other libraries to the lossless compression too. It will especially help with my Synchron Percussion, which is already taking up 500GB and I haven't even upgraded to the full yet.


  • @lunar_28664 said:
    partly also because you cannot freely choose the microphone positions to use like with OT's Sine

    When installing a library you can choose which mics should be installed / not installed.

    And yes, more Synchron libraries will get the compressed treatment, but we have to keep an eye on our download capacity. Stay tuned.


    Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
  • @Ben said:
    @lunar_28664 said:
    partly also because you cannot freely choose the microphone positions to use like with OT's Sine

    When installing a library you can choose which mics should be installed / not installed.


    And yes, more Synchron libraries will get the compressed treatment, but we have to keep an eye on our download capacity. Stay tuned.

    Well that's good news Ben! Although the Synchron-ized libraries aren't by far as big as the Synchron libraries, are you considering to give them the compressed treatment, as you call it, as well?

    Best,

    Willem


  • Considering yes, but no promises at this point 😊


    Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
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    I'm hoping that this new compressed format might also lead to a mic merge feature, which would be a very welcome development to reduce the system load of the VSL libraries. That and a "niente" feature are the only things that I feel are really missing from the Synchron Player as it stands.

    EDIT: Actually, detailed custom response curves in the other players would be nice too - right now only the Synchron Piano player has this in full. The main Synchron player just has these postage-stamp-size curve editors.


  • @Ben said:
    @lunar_28664 said:
    partly also because you cannot freely choose the microphone positions to use like with OT's Sine

    When installing a library you can choose which mics should be installed / not installed.


    And yes, more Synchron libraries will get the compressed treatment, but we have to keep an eye on our download capacity. Stay tuned.

    Ben,

    I appreciate that for download bandwidth limitations the rollout may have to be trickled BUT can you please give us an answer about what will/won’t be ‘converted’ to the lossless compression?

    As I understand it: anything that is not ‘synchronized’ yet has significant conversion issues; and, anything that is either a synchron or a ‘synchronized’ library can take advantage of the lossless compression.


    Just a beginner
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    @rAC said:
    I appreciate that for download bandwidth limitations the rollout may have to be trickled BUT can you please give us an answer about what will/won’t be ‘converted’ to the lossless compression?

    Synchron/BBO: Yes

    SYNCHRON-ized: Not yet decided

    VI: No


    Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
  • My pianos are updating this morning !


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  • @Ben said:
    @lunar_28664 said:
    partly also because you cannot freely choose the microphone positions to use like with OT's Sine

    When installing a library you can choose which mics should be installed / not installed.


    And yes, more Synchron libraries will get the compressed treatment, but we have to keep an eye on our download capacity. Stay tuned.

    OK -- sounds like good news. Apologies if I've misunderstood about the flexibility to install the microphones as desired -- my memory must be playing tricks on me!


  • Just a heads up that the Synchron Percussion is now available for update to lossless compression.


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  • In my case, it did not yet update all of Synchron Percussion, only Bells III.


  • @mducharme said:

    In my case, it did not yet update all of Synchron Percussion, only Bells III.

    Same here


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    It initially listed all my percussion, but didn't end up updating all of them. Maybe there's a download limit per day?

    Just one small Orch Perch updated today... Andi?


    Dorico, Notion, Sibelius, StudioOne, Cubase, Staffpad VE Pro, Synchon, VI, Kontakt Win11 x64, 64GB RAM, Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, August Forster 190
  • Hello!

    We have put some files online a bit too soon. Please have a little more patience.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Thanks Andi. Guess I should have kept my mouth shut 🤪


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  • Less space without loss of quality would indeed be very welcome. Each time I buy a new VSL library (last SY Violin and Cello) I have to move some not so often used libraries to my external SSD.