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  • Sympathetic resonance and the mechanical noises

    mehrshadM
    mehrshadM

    well, i've been thinking about how the synchron pianos can benefit from having some new features

    first of all - the sympathetic resonance, we need a top notch modeling for this one, the thing that we have in the synchron called (sympathetic) is not a resonator, it just blends every single note and noise together in a very disturbing way and honestly it sounds aweful, i never use this feature like a lot of other users (it's not like i'm not sacrificing anything, it makes the pedal-down parts very unrealistic and soulless - so we need this feature ASAP)

    secondly - the mechanical noises, i think the best way to put this is to have a new page in the synchron piano player called (NOISES) where we can adjust :

    the hammers moving up/down noises,

    the stage noises (the synchron itself and dozen more of course)

    the pianist noises

    key sounds (the wooden click sounds)

    the silent key on/off

    that's all i'm thinking these days... (probably more... but most of it needs a coffee sit to be explained so never mind😁)

    anyways... i'm demoing the 280vc RN and MAN!! this is the absolute best of all, the sound and playability are magical

    it sounds perfect even with a single mic and it requires the least amount of tweaking, i just edited the vel,curve and boom it's the best piano sound i've ever had so thanks my Viennese friends❤️

    imagine having all that i've mentioned above with this particular piano - JUST WOW
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    B 
    Give up dude, they won't implement this feature at all.
  • M
    M

    What I did and what works quite well is to simultaneously trigger a synchron piano and pianoteq and then mix the 2 together to a stereo output (my favourite combination so far is the Yamaha VSL together with the Steinway B in pianoteq).

    You can either just tweak the settings in both, or e.g. setup pinaoteq just for sympathetic resonance and "noises". Of course it's fake, but the 2 complement each other quite well.

    Synchron gives a more realistic attack (especially in the bass register), while pianoteq is more dynamically playable (and has lots more options for tweaking).
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    @MichaelT said:

    What I did and what works quite well is to simultaneously trigger a synchron piano and pianoteq and then mix the 2 together to a stereo output (my favourite combination so far is the Yamaha VSL together with the Steinway B in pianoteq).


    You can either just tweak the settings in both, or e.g. setup pinaoteq just for sympathetic resonance and "noises". Of course it's fake, but the 2 complement each other quite well.


    Synchron gives a more realistic attack (especially in the bass register), while pianoteq is more dynamically playable (and has lots more options for tweaking).

    Hi, which edition to get to make it works?
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    O

    I've tried it by generating two instrument tracks in Cubase 12. It works quite well. I use Pianoteq 8 standard edition.

    I have not jet found out, how to reduce the outuput of Pianoteq to the noises.
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    M

    Check the moddartt forum, there's a guy who did this to the extreme with instructions on how to setup.

    For me it was too much pain, I'm just mixing intuitively, but I don't have the goal to make it "real", just pleasant/useful for practicing.