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  • Max Voices Mic and Key Values: What do they mean?

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    Hello, 

    In the Synchron Piano Player software we have "Max Voices / Mic" (defult 128) and "Max Voices / Key" (defult 4). I honestly don't know what these do, and I don't notice any difference when I change the values. Can someone explain to me excatly what these features do? Thanks for the help.

    God Bless,

    David


    F308, D-274, 280VC, Yamaha CFX, Bösendorfer Imperial, Vienna Imperial
  • Hi David,

    The Synchron Pianos Player does "intelligently" drop voices when the set limit is reached to avoid performance issues (without a change in what you hear). The higher this setting is, the more voices you can stack on top of each other. 

    Best,
    Andreas


    VSL Team | Product Specialist & Media Editing
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    I still have no clue what you're talking about. It's actually more confusing now with the "without a change in what you hear" elelment. 

    1. What are voices?
    2. What is the difference between a mic voice and a key voice?
    3. If voices are dropped without any change in what we hear, what is the point of changing the defult values?

     

    Thanks for the help.

    God Bless,

    David


    F308, D-274, 280VC, Yamaha CFX, Bösendorfer Imperial, Vienna Imperial
  • Hi David.

    Voices are individual samples that are triggered when playing a piano key. Your Synchron Pianos do come with multiple microphone positions. (Close, Deka Tree, Surround etc)

    Mic Voice = How many samples are triggered per microphone
    Key Voice = How many samples are triggered per key

    We are not suggesting you should make changes there. You can, but you do not have to. One reason could be to lower the strain on your CPU. In fact, for the vast majority, the default settings are fine as they are.


    VSL Team | Product Specialist & Media Editing
  • I hate to be a nuisance, but I still know nothing more about it than when I asked the question(s). 

    Let's start with the key voices since that has the lest amount at a defult of 4. When I press a key, what are the 4 voices that can be heard with that key press? What am I hearing if I increase or decrease that defult? 


    F308, D-274, 280VC, Yamaha CFX, Bösendorfer Imperial, Vienna Imperial
  • When you have one active mic position and you play one note, you hear one voice. If you play the note multiple times you hear more samples on the same note, because you played the note more often. Instead of indefinitely layering samples on top of each other, the player drops samples (voices) at some point.

    It's pretty much like a real piano. Sit down and play one key one time with the pedal pressed down. This is going to sound slightly different than playing the same note 3-4 times. But it does not really make a difference if you play it 30 or 50 times. The best tip I have for you: Don't think about this setting. It will not improve the sound for you if you start changing it.


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    @Andreas8420 said:
    When you have one active mic position and you play one note, you hear one voice. If you play the note multiple times you hear more samples on the same note, because you played the note more often. Instead of indefinitely layering samples on top of each other, the player drops samples (voices) at some point.

    It's becoming clearer now. If I hold the sustain pedal and strike a key, that will sound one voice. While holding the sustain pedal and striking the key 4 times I'll hear the 4 voices of that sample (layered). When I strike the key the 5th time (holding the pedal down) the first voice I had activated will be dropped (presuming the defualt is set to 4)and so on and so on. I presume it works the same way for the mic voices. 

     

    @Andreas8420 said:
    It's pretty much like a real piano. Sit down and play one key one time with the pedal pressed down. This is going to sound slightly different than playing the same note 3-4 times. But it does not really make a difference if you play it 30 or 50 times.

    I think this explains what you mean by "without changing what you hear." Past 3 or 4 layers (individual key strikes with the pedal down) the change in the sound is negligible. Increasing the default voice per key might add more sampled layers of repeated pedal down single key strikes (using more computer resources) without actually producing a discernible difference in the sound. 

    If everything I said is accurate than I definitely understand it better than I did before. 👍

    Standby for more questions (possibly). 🙂 Thanks for the help. 

    God Bless,

    David


    F308, D-274, 280VC, Yamaha CFX, Bösendorfer Imperial, Vienna Imperial