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lost beethoven score found!
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That is extremely important and interesting, but also extremely disturbing to me.
It reawakens the absolute hatred I have for society in general. Why is it that 1.5 million dollars is paid by all these slavering fools, long, long after the composer is dead? Just like Van Gogh, whose desperate masterpieces were considered trash in his time and now the province of snobs and wealthy fatheads.
The human race is scum.
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I guess we can only hope that our own work reaches this kind of status one day .. so even my most terrible theme would be a 'Work of art' .. I've always held modern art and such things with very little regard.
Reminds me of a ime I saw some very famous Paintings shown in a Las Vegas hotel (I forget which one!) and somebody asked me what I thought .. I said "Honestly I much prefer the aesetic colourings of a good 'Wyland' painting!" .. You'd never seen someone look so shocked .. but it was honest of me ;D
Also this brings about my memory of watching the film 'The Red Violin', in which at the end this violin which has been passed down the ages to kids, and peasants and such people as should probably not have been able to afford the pefect instrument. It is nearly destroyed countless times and those that posessed it gained much talent from it. Anyways so in present day it's about to be sold for a huge amount of money to a big fat rich guy who's simply going to mount it in a cupboard, Another trophy...
However the main character steals it and replaces it with another .. and gives the real one to his daughter to learn how to play .. I thought "Yeah! that's where it belongs" amongst people who will use it.
Poigniant!
Rasies alot of questions about how valuable art and music is. It's certainly worth something, but it's a shame that most peoples work geos very much unappreciated until long after they died!
Hetoreyn
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@hetoreyn said:
Also this brings about my memory of watching the film 'The Red Violin', in which at the end this violin which has been passed down the ages to kids, and peasants and such people as should probably not have been able to afford the pefect instrument. It is nearly destroyed countless times and those that posessed it gained much talent from it. Anyways so in present day it's about to be sold for a huge amount of money to a big fat rich guy who's simply going to mount it in a cupboard, Another trophy...
However the main character steals it and replaces it with another .. and gives the real one to his daughter to learn how to play .. I thought "Yeah! that's where it belongs" amongst people who will use it.
Poigniant!
Hetoreyn
Funnily enough, I was only thinking about that film the other day. I don't reckon much to it, but for some reason I really enjoyed it [:D]
DG
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The unhappy fact is, most composers and writers and painters don't have the necessary savage skills required to take their work to the people in a an aggresive non creative, and brutal profit driven market. It's also an unhappy fact, that we, if we wish to make a living and be 'recognised in our lifetime' to some degree are at the whim of these companies, because they have the commercial resources to take your masterpiece to many many people. Until we develop, and have more confidence in, our ability to manage and 'package' ourselves, we will remain removed from most of the decision making process.
We have some positive signs in today's world though.
The internet has, to a certain extent, freed us from the shackles of decisions of the few who use our talents to line their own pockets. In addition, the technology, both in excellent sample bases (VSL take a bow.) and the software and hardware to deliver it puts us ever closer to total independence.
But obstacles remain. How do we access mainstream media with sufficient coverage to implant in the public's mind that we are worth considering? Once again we face stiff competition from corporate sharks with formidable resources.
How do we work together as a collective of independent composers, and create enough resource to compete?
It's long been a goal of mine to start a publishing company for books and music, and push hard to widen the public perception, not only for my own work, but the work of others who may be genius, but are stuck outside of the 'accepted corral' of musically, corporately, accepted. Recording new composers, and publishing new writers, and importantly, develop the network and resources to compete, continues to drive me forward.
So in the current climate, i find myself standing with William, and deploring the actions of those whose pretensions and egos are far from the honourable motives we would like to see such work set in, but would also offer that there are alternatives, no matter how challenging, that can enable Composers and Writers to benefit in their lifetime from the success of their creativity.
In a sense, we're in a new niche market (good business environment for the brave), and coupled with the audience's perception of what constitutes a 'live' performance, any role for us as a 'club' of independents will need to include a program of perception change. (Very clever and subtle marketing over a period of time). Our own record label, publishing house, distribution network, etc. gives us independence, but it is no certain success. It will take much from every member of that 'club' to drive the process forward toward a better potential.
I think Paul is right. The desire to 'have something' that no one else has will be too strong a lure for those with money, and the price is likely to reach 5 million or even exceed it. Let's not forget, however good or otherwise the work may be, there's been well over a hundred years of publicity to strengthen it's perceived value in the eyes of those who don't know, and probably don't really care.
They will have something someone else doesn't.
Regards to you all,
Alex.
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@hermitage59 said:
The unhappy fact is, most composers and writers and painters don't have the necessary savage skills required to take their work to the people in a an aggresive non creative, and brutal profit driven market.
I'm not so sure about that - Beethoven, himself, was definitely a counterexample.
rgames
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