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  • Using VLS for Internet services?

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    My Java applet generates music from pictures in a few seconds. I could create services on Internet or on mobile phones where pictures given or taken (mobile) by the users are transformed to music making it possible to play and listen the pieces immediately (playing VSL etc sounds). Could I do that without paying anything to produces of SW instruments? That would mean that anybody in the world could exploit VSL or whatever without paying anything to VSL.

    Nowadays music is distributed both via CDs and Internet. Its will be similar when distributed music played with software instruments. Now only in the case of VSL etc. and my example people could trigger the generation of music by themselves and the midi file could be played by VSL etc. situated in some servers. When thousands of people will be using VSL etc. that way without bying VSL is is OK? How complete is this analog between CD and online interactive distribution?
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    This completely bypasses the EULA which every user of any sample library either agrees to or violates. You have a license to play the sounds, and pay for it unless you are a thief. It doesn't matter what technology you use, or where you get the samples. I don't understand why putting it on a server makes the slightest difference. Except maybe it makes it easier for pirates? I don't understand the point of this thread at all.
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    @William said:

    This completely bypasses the EULA which every user of any sample library either agrees to or violates. You have a license to play the sounds, and pay for it unless you are a thief. It doesn't matter what technology you use, or where you get the samples. I don't understand why putting it on a server makes the slightest difference. Except maybe it makes it easier for pirates? I don't understand the point of this thread at all.


    Could you be more explicite. When the piece is streamed or mp3 file returned for a composition that was generated in a second or so and the user never sees VLS the what is violated? What is the difference when distributing CDs having VSL sounds?

    When I serve my customers "manually" it is definetely OK. Why it is not OK when everything is done automatically by server computers?
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    lauri, you can distribute pieces of music using any media and packaging you like, except if the samples can be isolated from the distributed format (there are some mixed midi/audio formats eg. for mobile phones which would allow that). the EULA does not allow to re-distribute single samples - each piece of music as a result of your work can be published without restrictions (ok, for CDs you have to mention VSL) - please see our terms of license from the footer of each page.
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    CM's answer confirms my understanding of the end user licence agreement. That you could indeed provide such a service but you would have to somehow ensure that individual samples could not be reproduced in an isolated state within a 'composition' (or shall we say 'generated performance'?).

    However, one could argue that if the user (your client) is providing the images then they are providing the main compositional element. If this was happening in a studio environment, would I not be right in saying that each composer (read 'client') would have to own the library?

    I would also suggest that in your case perhaps the VSL samples are almost integral to the software front end, in which case surely some additional licensing would be necessary - As is likely the case with the incorporation of VSL samples in Kontakt 2 for example.

    If you're at all serious about this I would suggest contacting the big man himself - HERB!!! Where for art thou?

    Colin

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    There are also various libraries where you can only use the samples on non-commercial albums (with only a mention of which library was used) but for a commercial release you often have to pay extra.

    Why? There's hundreds of sound effects (FX and foley for film and tv) which you buy once and can use whatever way and whenever and as often as you like.

    One of the reasons I like VSL (besides the quality) is that their user license let's you make commercial work wihout additional costs for more license.
    (And when I release my first CD I will be very proud when I can include 'samples by VSL'. How cool that would look!)