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Dear all,
you read it here first: After several years of development and many unforeseen hurdles my dream became reality: MIR Pro 3D. Thanks a lot for your ongoing interest in this idea, and your patience!
... more details coming soon - watch this space. ;-)
Just saw the Video announcement. Looks great!
Quick question, is this Apple Silicon Native? Currently on the Specs page it only lists Intel.
--Lee
Congratulations, Dietz, on the fruition of all your hard work over years.
MIR 3D looks great and several features, especially Roles, look like it will be much easier to use.
Quick question to either confirm or not my understanding of Sy libraries versus Syz libraries with MIR Pro. Is it the case that Sy libraries cannot take advantage of MIR Pro 3D because the room and positioning is baked into the samples, but Syz libraries, because they are based on the dry VI samples, ARE able to do so?
edited to add:
Thanks for your answer in the VI Control forum.
Thanks Dietz,
Just upgraded and opened a project in Cubase 12. The new GUI for both the VST plugin and the main program look great on a 4k monitor. I can now see everything clearly. So far soo good!
Dave
Dear all,
you read it here first: After several years of development and many unforeseen hurdles my dream became reality: MIR Pro 3D. Thanks a lot for your ongoing interest in this idea, and your patience!
... more details coming soon - watch this space. 😉
Just saw the Video announcement. Looks great! Quick question, is this Apple Silicon Native? Currently on the Specs page it only lists Intel. --LeeCongratulations to the Team! Another amazing addition to the VSL experience. I am also curious to know if this software runs natively on Apple Silicon? Thanks in advance. LB
Hi thanks for the great news!
I am installing the demo now and considering signal flow, bus setup and room library.
I really like the 7.1.4 space I can create with vsti multi mics, when they are available, so I dont want to loose that. I'd rather use MIR Pro3d to homogenise those beds with an "overall space" and spot 3 or 4 instruments as ambisonics/atmos objects and send from those to MIR. Is this approach possible or flawed?
Should I replace my VSTi out channel sends to 7.1.4 alg reverb with MIR or is it better to add one on the instrument buss?
More background info:
I have chosen Synchron Stage, Room 6 to demo as well.
Should I replace my VSTi out channel sends to 7.1.4 alg reverb with MIR or is it better to add one on the instrument buss?
MIR isn't really meant to be used as "overall reverb" (although it can serve this task pretty well, too). The basic idea is to have one "MIR Icon" on stage for each individual, dry instrument, or at least for uniform ensembles like "all 1st violins" or "all French horns". In your case with hundreds of tracks I would suggest to create groups for those sources, adding MIR instances there: MIR is a convolution based engine which tends to be CPU-hungry, especially in a 3D-audio environment ....
Enjoy MIR 3D! 😊
Thanks for the quick reply Dietz. I just edited above to say
"to homogenise those beds with an "overall space" and spot 3 or 4 instruments as ambisonics/atmos objects and send from those to MIR. Is this approach possible or flawed?"
Yes I see what you are saying. More object orientated.
edit: what if my groups are 7.1.4, or anything greater than mono or stereo?
edit: what if my groups are 7.1.4, or anything greater than mono or stereo?
Then MIR 3D will use this format. 😊
Sidenote: Keep in mind that the first instance of MIR always and exclusively defines the format for all other instances!
Congratulations for the release!!!
I suggest that VSL should make some in-depth tutorial videos in the future explaining the capsules and spheres. And I really mean “in-depth". So much new possibilitites ... I haven't even understood the basics of the previous version in terms of microphone capsules. :D I'm also interested in how and when to use the wet polarity feature, as well as the ambisonic blending feature.
Congratulations Dietz and VSL for the achievement:
being one of the nasty supporters, I updated immediately 😃 and the first feedback is quite positive.
To be fair I work with stereo set-up only, but I was curious to see if the higher order ambisonic was providing the density and natural potential improvement to the sound, beside routing, modernized GUI and iLock license benefits.
Perhaps I've a placebo effect bias, but I've the feeling that the IR are better "wrapping" the sound, and the mix of direct sound and reflections sounds more "natural" to me.
Being it true or just imagination, anyway I love the new functions like the preset "roles" management and the dry signal treatment options. Great software-design, guys!
I am very undecided between Vienna Konzerthaus and The Sage Gateshead.
I already have roompacks 2 and 6.
I'm asking for help.
Thank you for this wonderful Mir Pro 3D.
really a matter of personal taste, but I can share my impressions owning both the venues:
- I would go for Gateshead, because the 3 rooms are more different and unique in my opinion (a small scoring studio, a chamber hall and a gorgeous large concert hall) all of them quite useful.
- Vienna Konzerthaus venues are all more on the classical music concert-hall side, and for my personal taste, slightly more difficult to fine tune at your will.
[...] Perhaps I've a placebo effect bias, but I've the feeling that the IR are better "wrapping" the sound, and the mix of direct sound and reflections sounds more "natural" to me.
Thanks for the friendly feedback! Better enveloping and and more "natural" space is indeed the intended effect of the IEM*) upscaling process. The effect is maybe less obvious in stereo, but it's spectacular in surround and especially 3D.
*) As a matter of fact there's even quite some academic literature available on this topic, most notably by the team around Prof. Zotter, who is one of the driving forces behind the Ambisonics research "hotspot" at IEM (Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics in Graz).
Hello
I upgraded to Vienna MIR PRO 3D.
Vienna MIR PRO stopped working when I installed Vienna MIR PRO 3D.
So I lose all projects in Cubase where I used Vienna MIR PRO plugin?
All settings are lost.
Regards
Carlos
