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  • Dynamics - Which approach for most realism?

    S
    S

    Hi all, 

    how do the Pros work with dynamics in VSL to achieve the most realistic results?

    I would appreciate some guidance ;-)

     

    Have a great day!!!
  • andiA
    VSL Team
    andiA

    Hi Sanseb!

    Your question can't be answered in general. There are many different possible (and succesful) workflows. It also depends on your used DAW or notation software and if you are programming the notes or if you are playing/recording performances on your keyboard.

    To find your personal workflow, I would start with playing different instruments and presets on your keyboard. This way you will get to know the library and hear what works fine for you.

    Best regards,
    Andi

    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • S
    S

    Hey Andi, thanks for commenting!

    I am writing the Score using Dorico 4. If possible I would like to stay with Dorico and make all the necessary adjustments from there to get it to sound good. 

    I was messing around a little with recording a VelXF performance for one track and copying it to the other instruments (Full Orchestra). I wasn't too excited with the results though..  Doing this to each instrument individually would probably give the most authentic results, but I'm afraid to loose track of the overall dynamic balance with increasing number of VelXF recordings.

     

    Hence the question - what other philosophies to go about dynamics are there to be worth exploring?

    Greets,

     

    Sanseb
  • andiA
    VSL Team
    andiA

    Hi Sanseb!

    Our Dorico Playback Templates use velocity for dynamics by default. I only switch to VelXF control when I want dynamic changes within a note. You can find some information about controlling dynamic layers in our Dorico Quickguide.
    https://www.vsl.info/en/tutorials/guides/dorico-integration/quickguide#optimization

    Best regards,
    Andi

    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • M
    M

    It has been discussed in the Dorico forum. Some people like to assign cc 2 (or 1) instead of velocity, and cc11 as a secondary. Others go with velocity + either cc2 or 11 (apparently some of the newer VSL products use cc1 rather than cc2) -- either way, you'd want xF enabled unless you're happy to stick with velocity-only.
  • M
    M

    Sanseb

     

    My thought about that:

    VSL SE is already pretty well balanced about the volume of one instrument to each other !

    In fact Dorico send a default CC7=100 for any instruments laoded.

    THIS IS NOT RESPECTFUL TO THE SE'S GENUINE SETUP !

     

    Default CC7 from VSL SE are the following:

    Woodwind CC7 = 71

    Brass CC7 = 113

    Percussion and Mallets has

    différents setup between  CC7 = 71 to 113

    Harp CC7 = 51

    Orchestral Strings CC7 = 67

    Chamber Strings CC7 = 67

    Solo Strings CC7 = 57

     

    From there, I have edit Dorico's all Expression maps (Dorico)

     

    -Lets say a Flute

    1-  Init:

    CC11=127 (Expression)

    CC15 = 127 (Reverb/on)

    CC28 = 127 Vel.XF on)

     

    2- Select all articulation and edit:

    - Volume dynamic: Control change: 7

    Min: 71 Max: 71 (woodwinds) (Brass 113, etc.) 

    - Use Secondary dynamic

    - Contro change: 2

    Min: 1 Max: 127

     

    Et voilà...

     

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