Hello Dave!

All the Sibelius trumpet ensemble instruments that you have tried are working fine with the Synchron Brass trumpet ensembles here.

It can have different reasons why articulation changes don't work as expected or instruments play on the wrong channel. Did you go through the Troubleshooting section of "Sibelius Integration" tutorial yet? All possible reasons that come to my mind are listed there.
https://www.vsl.info/tutorials/guides/sibelius-integration/troubleshooting

If you can't find a solution there, please send the following screenshots and a reference to this forum thread to support@vsl.co.at.
- Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments" menu
- Sibelius mixer
- Sibelius Playback Devices menu
- Sibelius Manual Sound Sets page of all loaded devices
- Vienna Ensemble showing one of the instruments that doesn't work correctly

Best regards,
Andi

Hello Bill!

Synchron Brass ensembles get loaded properly here. It seems to me that you have loaded a playback template that uses SYzd Special Edition Brass instruments. If the problem remains, please let me know, which playback template you have loaded exactly.

Best regards,
Andi

Hi Bill!

I remember now. I have fixed this problem after the release of the playback template for Synchron Brass. The fix will be included in the next update, which hopefully will come soon. In the meantime, please manually load the correct preset in Synchron Player. Sorry for the inconvinience that this may have caused.

Best regards,
Andi

Thanks Andi!

Will any of the 3 presets work?

Hello Bill!

I recommend using the Velocity version of the presets with Dorico (and Sibelius).

Best,
Andi

Interesting. I would have assume one of the other two...

@andi said:

I recommend using the Velocity version of the presets with Dorico (and Sibelius).

Hi Andi, is there a reason for this? I would have assumed the CC1 version would have been more versatile (and that's the configuration I’m currently using).

Paolo

Hi Bill and Paolo!

The Dorico Expression Maps for Synchron Brass control dynamics via velocity and CC2. With the velocity presets loaded, you can have VelXF turned on or off. VelXF is assigned to CC2, so both settings will work. The VelXF presets have this fader assigned to CC1.

Best regards,
Andi

Hello Bill!

There's a new version of the VSL for Dorico installer online. The Synchron Brass ensembles should now get loaded correctly with the corresponding playback templates.
https://www.vsl.co.at/Notation_Related

Best regards,
Andi

Thanks Andi !!

Andi, I’ve seen that some articulations are missing from your expression maps for Dorico. Fast repetitions, rips, glissandos. Are they automated somehow else, or is it just that they were left out?

Paolo

Also, long notes default to Con Fortissimo instead of Regular

@Bill said:

Also, long notes default to Con Fortissimo instead of Regular

Yes, I don't know if this is by choice, and which is the suggested strategy to then recall Regular. Maybe using the presets with a notation program doesn't even require this patch, since you always want access to the full dynamic range.

Paolo

Hi Bill and Paolo!

Not all articulations can easily be triggered with a notation program. You can always make custom playing techniques if you want to trigger additional articulations. The con fortissimo patches have been chosen for Dorico to have the full dynamic range at hands. Normally you will not need the regular dynamic patches with Dorico.

Best regards,
Andi

Andi, thank you very much for clarifying.

Paolo

Could you clarify which instruments should be used in Sibelius for Trombones a 9, Cimbasso and 'Low Brass'?

Thanks!

Callum

Hello Callum!

For the Trombones-9 I would use the "Trombones a3" instrument from the Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments menu".

For the cimbasso you can use the following instruments from the Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments menu":
Cimbasso in F, Cimbasso in Eb, Cimbasso in Bb

For the low brass group I would use the "Brass" instrument from the Sibelius "Add or Remove Instruments menu". You can remove the upper staff and only use the bass staff.

Best regards,
Andi

When asked about using the Auto Speed parameter of Synchron Player, or Dorico's Note Length parameter, Andi answered this way:

@andi said:
Doricos note length parameter in the expression maps has the advantage that the durations (and articulation selection) are know in advance. The Auto-Speed option in the Synchron Player can only react to MIDI signals it gets. So the articulation selection is always based on the previous note.

While I've made all my expression maps for Dorico based on the Note Length parameter, I also had to discover that things may become less clear when dealing with pieces at different metronome times.

For example, a 16th note may ask for an Agile articulation in a Presto, while play better with a Bold articulation in an Adagio. The Auto Speed parameter in Synchron Player can deal with this, even if the first note of a group will always be played with the Bold articulation.

In other words, time is always a great mystery for a human being! How better would it be, if the next time frame could be predicted?

Paolo