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    @Dan Wool said:

    I think we can assume the transition to iLok will take place sometime after iLok is running native on Apple Silicon. I'm keeping an eye out for PACE to announce M1 compatibility before I begin clamoring in earnest for eLicensor-to-iLok timeline info.

    The transition to iLok will happen first.


    Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
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    @Dan Wool said:

    I think we can assume the transition to iLok will take place sometime after iLok is running native on Apple Silicon. I'm keeping an eye out for PACE to announce M1 compatibility before I begin clamoring in earnest for eLicensor-to-iLok timeline info.

    The transition to iLok will happen first.

    Good to hear. What would be good to hear is this: I know a lot of people have asked about a date for when the iLok transfer will happen and it's been said we'll be told about it here and via email but no date has been given. Not asking for an exact date but can you at least tell us if it will happen this year?


  • Hi, 

    It will happen this year!

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    It will happen this year!

    Best,
    Paul

    Good to hear and thanks.


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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    It will happen this year!

    Best,
    Paul

    Hi Paul, 

    Is there any possibility you will allow machine activation or is VSL firmly decided on cloud or key only? 

    God Bless,

    David


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  • Hi David, 

    No machine activations for our regular products. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    It will happen this year!

    Best,
    Paul

    Hi, Paul,

    Can you give us a more precise timeframe? Perhaps 1st quarter, or 2nd?

     

    Cordially,

    Tunai


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    @Paul said:

    Hi, 

    It will happen this year!

    Best,
    Paul

    Hi, Paul,
    Can you give us a more precise timeframe? Perhaps 1st quarter, or 2nd?

    Cordially,

    Tunai

    Count yourself lucky we at least got a sometime this year acknowledgement. If I had to take a further guess I'd say second half of the year.


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    @musicman691 said:

    Count yourself lucky we at least got a sometime this year acknowledgement. If I had to take a further guess I'd say second half of the year.

    Let me poke the man unabashedly, my friend, lest he sees through the ruse.


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    @musicman691 said:

    Count yourself lucky we at least got a sometime this year acknowledgement. If I had to take a further guess I'd say second half of the year.

    Let me poke the man unabashedly, my friend, lest he sees through the ruse.

    Poke Ben and Paul too much and they'll just tune us out and you don't want that to happen. Like I said we're lucky we got a ball park response; they could have just blown us off and used the old 'it'll be out when it's ready' and left things just as murky as before.


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    @musicman691 said:

    Poke Ben and Paul too much and they'll just tune us out and you don't want that to happen. Like I said we're lucky we got a ball park response; they could have just blown us off and used the old 'it'll be out when it's ready' and left things just as murky as before.

    And you are certain of all that because?

    In any case, Paul or Ben won't "blown us off", that is not how VSL behaves. I'm certain we should get at least a courteous response, which is not worse than 'it'll be out when it's ready' which is the current deadline.

    As customers, we shouldn't be afraid of asking information about changes that affect the products we own.


  • Hi everybody, 

    We cannot give you an exact date. 

    As soon as software is involved, unexpected things happen all the time. Especially in those final steps.

    We don't want to upset or disappoint you by promising something we cannot deliver in time, so we don't make promises. Instead we take the time that's necessary to provide you with what you can rightfully expect: A comfortable transition process from eLicenser to iLok. 

    Thanks for your understanding. 

    Best, 
    Paul 


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Are there any new contents for exciting products when transition to ilok? As I remember from one of the posts.

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    @Paul said:

    We don't want to upset or disappoint you by promising something we cannot deliver in time, so we don't make promises. Instead we take the time that's necessary to provide you with what you can rightfully expect: A comfortable transition process from eLicenser to iLok.

    Thank you for taking your time on this.  It would be a huge mistake to rush such an important thing so - for what it's worth - I'm very, very glad the company is not (rushing).  Imo, this transition is the correct move for many reasons and it's very important that it go off without a hitch (or as few hitches as possible).

    - Sam


  • I am not looking to be critical, but both e-licenser and iLok have been around a very long time, so I  am surprised that transitioning from using one copy protection scheme to the other is such a big deal. But admittedly, I have no real knowledge as to what is involved.


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    @Ashermusic said:

    I am not looking to be critical, but both e-licenser and iLok have been around a very long time, so I  am surprised that transitioning from using one copy protection scheme to the other is such a big deal. But admittedly, I have no real knowledge as to what is involved.

    Although someone earlier in this thread said otherwise, it seems logical to me that VSL would wait for iLok to be M1 native, which is yet to happen, before transitioning. 


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    @Ashermusic said:

    I am not looking to be critical, but both e-licenser and iLok have been around a very long time, so I am surprised that transitioning from using one copy protection scheme to the other is such a big deal. But admittedly, I have no real knowledge as to what is involved.
    Although someone earlier in this thread said otherwise, it seems logical to me that VSL would wait for iLok to be M1 native, which is yet to happen, before transitioning. But it works with Rosetta 2.

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    @Another User said:

    Although someone earlier in this thread said otherwise, it seems logical to me that VSL would wait for iLok to be M1 native, which is yet to happen, before transitioning.


    As far as I know PACE /iLok provided beta versions of their developer Kits already in Q4 of 2021. Some developers using iLok (for example Liquidsonics) already released Apple Silicon optimized versions of their software.
    So – not sure if this is a reason why VSL waits ...


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    @Ashermusic said:


    I am not looking to be critical, but both e-licenser and iLok have been around a very long time, so I am surprised that transitioning from using one copy protection scheme to the other is such a big deal. But admittedly, I have no real knowledge as to what is involved.
    Although someone earlier in this thread said otherwise, it seems logical to me that VSL would wait for iLok to be M1 native, which is yet to happen, before transitioning.

    But it works with Rosetta 2.Not so for the MAS version of VE Pro unfortunately. 

    Re iLok. I don't know if/how this would make a diff, but Liquidsonics and others were already iLok apps, whereas VSL is making a transition from e-licensor. 


  • Good idea, but why don't you spend the time getting the e-licenser server working again so we can use new sample sets purchased?
    It's not been working today, and you don't mention this on your website - which I reckon is a pretty poor show really.


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