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  • clruweC
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    Right, so the cloud is not very useful then... Especially on WiFi.
  • BenB
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    I have not yet tested it on my notebook, but to my knowledge you have a certan grace-time until you need to reconnect to the internet. You will get a warning as soon as the connection is lost, and this should give you enough time to save everything and fix your connection.

    Ben@VSL | IT & Product Specialist
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    @clruwe said:

    Right, so the cloud is not very useful then... Especially on WiFi.

    Cloud anything is not useful or reliable
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    @Ben said:

    I have not yet tested it on my notebook, but to my knowledge you have a certan grace-time until you need to reconnect to the internet. You will get a warning as soon as the connection is lost, and this should give you enough time to save everything and fix your connection.

    A lot depends on how often the cloud gets checked/polled. I know it's barely a matter of seconds when I've tried it and PT dies. Nowheres near enough time to save. That was just a test to see what would happen. This is from home base and I'm just 10 feet from my router.
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    If user does not have ilok usb device, would you provide for those who own VEP6 with old eLicenser for free?
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    @Lionberg said:

    If user does not have ilok usb device, would you provide for those who own VEP6 with old eLicenser for free?

    I doubt it. Why not just buy an iLok? There's a lot of programs that use iLok and sooner or later you're going to need one. Besides - which eLicenser are you asking about - the s/w one or the hardware one? VEPro needs to see the hardware dongle and won't work with the s/w version as I recall.
  • PaulP
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    Hello Lionberg, 

    VE Pro 6 will not be available for iLok at all. There will be great upgrade options to VE Pro 7!

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    It seems to me that the whole point of this move is to get away from hardware licensers. I use Cubase and it will soon be rid of it's elicenser which is great for me as I have a new Macbook Air M1. If I have to have a dongle I might as well use the elicenser(s) I already have!
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    @beatpete said:

    It seems to me that the whole point of this move is to get away from hardware licensers. I use Cubase and it will soon be rid of it's elicenser which is great for me as I have a new Macbook Air M1. If I have to have a dongle I might as well use the elicenser(s) I already have!

    Don't know where you got that idea of this move is getting away from hardware dongles. Why Steinberg is dropping it's dongle - I have no idea. I'd rather have a dongle than a machine license or a cloud license. The cloud is not reliable and it means you have to have your daw computer online. Most studios don't allow their machines online. And a machine license restricts you from easily moving your asset to another machine - again the computers would have to be online.
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    @musicman691 said:

    The cloud is not reliable and it means you have to have your daw computer online. Most studios don't allow their machines online. And a machine license restricts you from easily moving your asset to another machine - again the computers would have to be online.

     

    I've used machine licenses for years and they have been just fine.
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    @musicman691 said:

    The cloud is not reliable and it means you have to have your daw computer online. Most studios don't allow their machines online. And a machine license restricts you from easily moving your asset to another machine - again the computers would have to be online.

     

    I've used machine licenses for years and they have been just fine.

    Had it happen where if I make a change in my system the machine license goes south. Besides if you want to use a licensed plugin that has a machine license on another machine you've got all kinds of hoops to jump through. Not so with an iLok or Vienna Key.
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    @musicman691 said:

     Besides if you want to use a licensed plugin that has a machine license on another machine you've got all kinds of hoops to jump through. Not so with an iLok or Vienna Key.

     

    No hoops at all! I have 3 VEP licenses using 3 dongles on three computers. Three machine licenses would be so much better! I've machine licensed hundreds of plugins and never had a problem.
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    @musicman691 said:

     Besides if you want to use a licensed plugin that has a machine license on another machine you've got all kinds of hoops to jump through. Not so with an iLok or Vienna Key.

     

    No hoops at all! I have 3 VEP licenses using 3 dongles on three computers. Three machine licenses would be so much better! I've machine licensed hundreds of plugins and never had a problem.

    With a dongle you can take your license anywheres to any machine in any studio.
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    @musicman691 said:

     

    With a dongle you can take your license anywheres to any machine in any studio.

     

    Why on earth would you want to?
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    With a dongle you can take your license anywheres to any machine in any studio.

     

    Why on earth would you want to?

    I gather you've never worked in in a studio other than you're own right? Been there/done that and not everyone has the same things you work with. Not all licenses are site-wide but only good for one person. And if I need to go to a backup machine having the license on a dongle makes it super easy. I guess you've never had a system take a dump on you.
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    [/quote]I gather you've never worked in in a studio other than you're own right? Been there/done that and not everyone has the same things you work with. Not all licenses are site-wide but only good for one person. And if I need to go to a backup machine having the license on a dongle makes it super easy. I guess you've never had a system take a dump on you.

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    I've worked in lots of other studios but not one that had VEP installed and didn't have a dongle!
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    @beatpete said:

     

    I gather you've never worked in in a studio other than you're own right? Been there/done that and not everyone has the same things you work with. Not all licenses are site-wide but only good for one person. And if I need to go to a backup machine having the license on a dongle makes it super easy. I guess you've never had a system take a dump on you.

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    I've worked in lots of other studios but not one that had VEP installed and didn't have a dongle!

    [/quote]It may not be legit to use the studio's dongle - not sure that VSL grants site licenses.
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    [/quote]It may not be legit to use the studio's dongle - not sure that VSL grants site licenses.

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    I'm not sure what that means but it's all moot because VSL is not going to have computer licenses anyway.

    We either have to have a dongle or be connected 24/7 to the internet.
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    @beatpete said:

     

    It may not be legit to use the studio's dongle - not sure that VSL grants site licenses.

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    I'm not sure what that means but it's all moot because VSL is not going to have computer licenses anyway.

    We either have to have a dongle or be connected 24/7 to the internet.

    [/quote]I never mentioned computer licenses. Strictly talking about dongles. And 24/7 connection to the net isn't going to happen unless VSL allows iLok Cloud. That's iffy at best and depends on a studio having it's machine online all the time.
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    Hi,
    I'm considering to buy the voice complete, but I have an apple silicon computer. 
    I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
    But I don't want to spend money on something I can't use until ...

    Any idea of the release of Ilok authorization ? (I guess this a question that all user in the forum are wondering)