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  • 1.  Are you creating a new empty slot in the dimension structure in Sy player before you try to load that slot with another instrument patch?

    If you drag a patch into an already-loaded slot, the dragged patch will replace whatever was loaded in the slot. Same thing will happen if you have an already-loaded slot selected and then double-click on a patch in the Sy Player Browser. It's not a bug.


  • 2.  Also, doesn't DP give you the option of loading a multi-output-channel version of the Sy Player plugin? It should.


  • 3.  And lastly - Sy Player cannot be used in the same way as a traditional so-called "multi-timbral" player. Whatever MIDI channel goes into Sy Player is global to the whole structure of instruments loaded in that player - there is no way of routing different MIDI channels to different instruments.

    However, different instruments loaded into different dimension trees can of course be selected by using Dimension Controls to select the appropriate dimension tree.


  • Use Vienna Ensemble. That's how things are deigned to work. End of issue.


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  • Thank you for the answer. That means the DP has a bug because the Program DP give me an impossible option, adding Vienna SY Player alone with 16 Channels.

    After your explanation I have my last question. How can I use channel 2 in Vienna SY Player and for what is this channel created?

    Thank you in advance,
    Regards,
    Sassan


    Sassan Mohebbi, MM, MU Master in Scoring for Film, TV, Games from Berklee College of Music Diploma in Piano Pedagogy from Uni of Music, Vienna former Lecturer at SAE Institute, Vienna former Lecturer at Uni of Tehran former Lecturer at Uni of Art, Tehran
  • Sassan I do not understand most of what you have written, nor have any idea of the procedures you've tried in Sy Player in connection with your issue. A lot of time has been spent trying to help you, but from what we can see in your posts, none of it seems to have made any difference. Please either use Google Translate and try hard to understand what has already been posted for you here (the solutions you need are there), and what's written in the user manual, or else contact VSL directly.

    I'm out.


  • The SY player only outputs to 1 channel. There's no channel 2.

    There's no bug in DP; all DAW operate the same way. DP has no way of knowing how many channels a given VSTi has. But you know.

    VSL provides Vienna Ensemble. You can put 16 instances of SY Player in that, the connect DP the VE, and you have your 16 channels.


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  • Thank you for the answer. What I understood is by default we have Channel 1, but the program gave us the option to add other channels like channel 2 or channel 3 with keeping the first channel but, we can never use all channels at the same time, right? The question is, is this program wrong designed to have two or more than two channels at the same time with no use of channels together at all? If I'm wrong can you please tell me how can I use two channels in the same time in this program? If I'm right please can you tell me what is the use to have the option having more channels in the same time in Vienna SY Player with no use?

    Best regards,
    Sassan


    Sassan Mohebbi, MM, MU Master in Scoring for Film, TV, Games from Berklee College of Music Diploma in Piano Pedagogy from Uni of Music, Vienna former Lecturer at SAE Institute, Vienna former Lecturer at Uni of Tehran former Lecturer at Uni of Art, Tehran
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    Hello everyone!

    Thank you for your contribution - it's already perfectly answered. The Vienna Synchron Player is not multi-timbral and therefore not designed to access different instruments on different channels. You load each instrument or instrument group into their own instance of the Synchron Player (like Flute, Trumpet, 1st Violins, etc.).

    And like Bill suggested - the best way to approach this is indeed the Vienna Ensemble software which allows you to do exactly what you want to do with access to 16 MIDI channels per port.

    You can find detailed information for Routing in Digital Performer here.

    Best regards - Andreas


    VSL Team | Product Specialist & Media Editing
  • Thank you Andreas for the answer,

    My last question is, we have this option to have more than one Channels at the same time in Vienna SY Player (we can add a second one after we got the first one automatically). How can we use two channels at the same time on one Vienna SY player? In other words, having two channels in one Vienna SY Player is for which use an option for us?

    Thank you in advance for your help
    Best regards,
    Sassan


    Sassan Mohebbi, MM, MU Master in Scoring for Film, TV, Games from Berklee College of Music Diploma in Piano Pedagogy from Uni of Music, Vienna former Lecturer at SAE Institute, Vienna former Lecturer at Uni of Tehran former Lecturer at Uni of Art, Tehran
  • No, there is no such option. YOU CAN'T DO IT


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  • I guess we can. Please have a look at this picture:

    https://www.sassan-mohebbi.com/ViennaSYPlayer.png

    Am I wrong?


    Sassan Mohebbi, MM, MU Master in Scoring for Film, TV, Games from Berklee College of Music Diploma in Piano Pedagogy from Uni of Music, Vienna former Lecturer at SAE Institute, Vienna former Lecturer at Uni of Tehran former Lecturer at Uni of Art, Tehran
  • EDIT VSL: Please be respectful when addressing other people or simply refrain from continuing the conversation if further answers seem pointless.

    Gentlemen, it appears we have a troll here.

    He has obfuscated, ducked and dived all along, did not respond coherently if at all to answers or pertinent questions from us, and continued posting his petulant and incomprehensible complaining. It seems that at some stage, without admitting it to us of course, he cottoned on as to how to solve his problem, and now he's trying to use that as a weapon too. (Notice how he cunningly projected his own initial confusion about Multi-MIDI-channel multi-timbral operation onto Bill, by misleading Bill into thinking he was talking only about that - the troll thereafter carefully avoided saying what sort of "channel" he was referring to. Bill and I correctly told him traditional Multi-timbral operation was not possible, but in retrospect we can see that the troll had moved on - without making it clear to us - to focussing on multi-audio-channel outputs.)

    Classic troll behaviour. I've seen it all too many times in 'social' and political forums. Probably a deranged narcissistic millennial snowflake living in mom's basement.

    Please, dear gentlemen, I implore you - avoid wasting your valuable time and attention on this malicious type.

    And keep your guard up! This one's upload reveals that he's IT savvy, probably savvy enough to do what so many trolls do once they're busted - use a spoof IP address to come back in another guise and start their malignant activity again. I've got eyes on a suspicious one in this forum as we speak. Am I being paranoid? Pfft, in this day and age? Lol, I'm not paranoid enough!


  • Please be nice and respectful. All further communication is directed to the existing support case. And I think there is a simple misunderstanding between the concept of mixer outputs & midi channels. Thank you everyone for your contribution. This thread is closed now.

    Best, Andreas


    VSL Team | Product Specialist & Media Editing